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tsquare 01-26-2012 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1123169)
What % of pilots at DAL make this? What % of SWA pilots make this?

Not that the fact that we have a grand total of 16 747s and they have 500+ 737s for which they are all paid the same would have anything to do with it, but.....

gloopy 01-26-2012 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1123172)
Why? Using the numbers above, if we have 100 737-900ER's coming, and 40 757's retiring, I can stomach that. Can't you?

I'm not saying I know how the trade will unfold, but using the numbers in the post you were responding to, I wouldn't shed a tear over a transaction that yields 60 new mainline airframes.

I think they are already planning to replace some older 320's and even a handful of 76's as well. IOW the entire order is "metal neutral".

chuck416 01-26-2012 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1122380)
Pat yourselves on the back boys, that $1.2 Billion is just about what we gave up in our pay cuts to "...keep Delta (and NW) out of bankruptcy'...

Almost.

But not quite enough to cover all we gave up.

Good news, after your 42% pay contribution, every year, for the past 8 years...you'll get a whopping 4.5% back in Profit Sharing, so you got that going for you.


Timbo,
Thanks. I hope we all remember this when when the company so graciously issues those profit sharing checks next month. I am happy to get one, but, context is everything.
Regards

iceman49 01-26-2012 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1123019)
Except for that pesky wing crack thing. ;)

Buzz we flew around with wing cracks for years on the 141.

Wasatch Phantom 01-26-2012 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1123258)
I also agree change and transparency need to continue to win the day at ALPA.

ACL,

I COMPLETELY agree with you on this, though I would omit the words "continue to" as they imply that there is progress in these areas.

But (and Slow, Sailing, Alfa, etc please feel free to comment...)

DALPA, despite their claims to the contrary, isn't getting the message. Or perhaps they have received the message but are choosing to ignore it.

As a recent example of this I need only point to the whole FPL "cover up". Absolutely shameful and indefensible performance by DALPA.

Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong...

tsquare 01-26-2012 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1123172)
Why? Using the numbers above, if we have 100 737-900ER's coming, and 40 757's retiring, I can stomach that. Can't you?

I'm not saying I know how the trade will unfold, but using the numbers in the post you were responding to, I wouldn't shed a tear over a transaction that yields 60 new mainline airframes.

60 new airframes??? Really???

tsquare 01-26-2012 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by get there itis (Post 1123190)
It's not 60 new frames. We're retiring some A320's & some domestic 767's too. I believe it's 85 retirements so 15 additional frames. I'm guessing the A320's on operating leases are the ones to go.


Don't forget the DC9s...

tsquare 01-26-2012 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1123191)
Those are the first round of aircraft leases they are refusing. There will be more.


I'll believe it when I see it in writing. Until then, it is just talk and rumor. Nothing more.

georgetg 01-26-2012 08:00 AM

ACL for jobs perspective vis-a-vis any airlines jobs base:

Just for the International Tom Bradley West expansion at LAX, 1 terminal out of 8, LAWA is quoting 40,000 local jobs, no taxpayer money.

LAneXt


With stats like that you probably will agree that any one airlines jobs are politically expedient, especially if they are partially picked up by new entrants or expansion by other airlines.

Cheers
George

tsquare 01-26-2012 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1123214)
Well nut, maybe I should hang out here more then. I'm going to let you in on a secret! Shhhh. Don't tell anyone, o. k.? Not a DPA member, really.

And go take a baby asprin before you stroke out. It's a forum genius.

He's right though. There is a place for the ALPA bashers so that those of us that don't want to read any more of the doughnut propaganda can ignore... take it over there please.


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