Originally Posted by Stickman964 (Post 1123163)

Any reserve folks seen the new "Reserve Availability List" format now available in iCrew? You can select any calendar day in the future and the page format associated with the new rules that take effect next month has LOTS of new information shown.

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1123172)

Why? Using the numbers above, if we have 100 737-900ER's coming, and 40 757's retiring, I can stomach that. Can't you?

I'm not saying I know how the trade will unfold, but using the numbers in the post you were responding to, I wouldn't shed a tear over a transaction that yields 60 new mainline airframes.

Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1123126)

I suspect no, American's oldest 757 was delivered in 1989. I would assume they are getting rid of the older ones.

The 757s we're getting rid of are the 1985-1990 vintage, so 1989 at the edge of that. Plus, they have RR engines, so it would be another engine type. Not that we don't have that here, but if we were only going to fly them for say, 5 more years, may not make economic sense. Also, I don't think they are getting rid of many, 10?

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1123191)

Those are the first round of aircraft leases they are refusing. There will be more.

Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1123195)

Yeah, I figure that. Gotta work with what we know though.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1123107)

The company opener will be something on the order of a 2 to 4 percent raise with offsets in work rules to cover the cost. Anyone who thinks other wise is smoking some really good stuff.

Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1123182)

SWEET! So we will see DALPA open with 8% and perhaps settle into that 3-5% range. We win!! Thanks for the nice pin though.

Originally Posted by get there itis (Post 1123190)

It's not 60 new frames. We're retiring some A320's & some domestic 767's too. I believe it's 85 retirements so 15 additional frames. I'm guessing the A320's on operating leases are the ones to go.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1123098)

The two contracts were carefully compared by both committees. The average total hours paid under each contract during the 3 years prior to the merger were within .5 hours of each other with the Delta contract slightly higher. You can ask the people involved at NW for the exact numbers Carl.
Yes NW had some aspects that produced increases Delta did not have. However Delta had a bunch of aspects to their contract NW did not have. Examples include a higher reserve guarantee for NW. However that was offset by reroute pay, reserve duty period lookback, additional pay for long call trips under 12 hours, pay on top of the guarantee for GS flying ect..
NW got limited pay above 80 hours at time and a half however it was not as posted often on all flying. There was a system that for practical purposes limited the hours depending on the caps. Delta paid double pay on all GS flying. In the end when everything was added up each contract produced essentially the same pay hours per month per pilot.
The Delta 1113 contract was however much shorter duration then the NW contract with higher rates. The much shorter duration of the Delta contract was a critical item. Carl claims he made more as a NW pilot but the facts don't support his case.
Premerger the NW pay rate on the 757 as a example was 142 dollars an hour. There were some small raise built into the NW contract so the rate today would be around 148 to 150. I don't have the exact numbers. The rate in effect today with the joint contract is 189 an hour or over 25 percent higher.
Carl was getting 177 an hour at the merger as a 747 Captain. He currently with international pay is getting 231.75 an hour. He is also getting a additional 1 percent a hour into retirement which will jump to 14 percent in 11 months or an additional 32 dollars an hour if Carl was a 0 percenter in the NW matrix. That would bring his total raise on 1 Jan 13 to 87 dollars an hour. With the raises in the NW contract he will still be 80 dollars an hour ahead.

Originally Posted by Wingnutdal (Post 1123208)

What was the spin on that? I swear that the more you DPA guys come on here with your ****y attitudes the more people you're going to lose.

I think that our pilot group in general has no idea how a section 6 works, what it involves, the time it takes, and the actual chances of being released. But you guys keep talking tough, you know more than anyone else, and can get everything all 12,000 pilots want.

God D@&$(&@!