Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Delta (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/)
-   -   Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta.html)

dragon 03-05-2012 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1146283)
No it doesn't! The recirc fans are loud and it's not a Boeing!

Don't forget the required anti-malaria medicine!

Fifi ain't fun!

scambo1 03-05-2012 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1146280)
Are you looking for a VD off of the 330? Without the "premium" widebody stuff getting displacements, it might be tougher to get that. Do you miss Saipan that much???? Just wait a couple more years, or until your 2 year training freeze is up, and then you might be a lot more senior on that 330...

I think Ferd is just waiting for the SEA 330 trips to all start with a deadhead from Phoenix.:D

capncrunch 03-05-2012 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1146180)
I'm thinking there is much more to the story.......but I'll doubt we'll ever really know.

Ferd

I think so too. It seems odd that they want all the training from this AE done by October. That will place the bulk of training over the summer flying schedule, not something they usually do. Add that with the talk about a "quick contract extension" and a picture starts to become clear.

Tomcat 03-05-2012 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by jherk02 (Post 1146213)
Right seat of the A320 v. 73N.

Anybody got experience in both that can list some strengths and weaknesses?

Thanks.

I'm sure you would like either one.... 320 is more comfortable, quiet and seems like a newer generation of aircraft. 73 is realiable, a little cramped for a tall guy and noisey. WIth 100 737-900's on order and coming next year, that would play into my decision matrix. Also, if you hadn't flown glass (which is a rare thing these days) the 320 may be a little more of a leap forward, but it's not rocket science. Then there's the obigatory comment about not being attached to the flight controls. If that bothers you, don't go into the military or fly any new generation of aircraft.

Personally, I have flown both now, but I wanted to see the 320 from the right seat, before the left (it will be a very long time before I can sit Captain on the 320). If I could go directly into the Captain seat of a 320 or a 73, I would choose the 320.

If you're looking at ATL on the 320, it's going senior and the trips are bad. I don't see the quality of the trips improving significantly until some of the 73 flying is moved out of the base, say a DTW 73 base.... Some of the most senior pilots in ATL are flying the 737 down to the Carribean on what's know as, "Dinner and a Movie" or the "Carribean Club". Seems like the 320 is not flying transcons out of ATL and I've been told that the case because the 73 has seatback entertainment (Driven by Marketing). I do miss the West Coast layovers.

Hope that helps. If you have any more questions, feel free to PM me.

TC

Boomer 03-05-2012 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1145589)
Agreed. They can start their shopping spree with the pilots. No more "I'll pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today."


The underboob on Olive is lacking, but Popeye looks like a million bucks wearing short sleeves and a tie!

Going2Baja 03-05-2012 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by jherk02 (Post 1146213)
Right seat of the A320 v. 73N.

Anybody got experience in both that can list some strengths and weaknesses?

Thanks.

Yes both..As said above the Bus is VERY roomy....I LOVED this. And that's about all I loved. The FMS is strange and the autopilot is the reason for the a/c having the highest # of ATC busts in all of aviation.

The NG is a little cramped, but @ 5'9" I didn't mind too much. As far as flying the NG is great. Easy FMS, great AP, but the overhead is still 60's tech. Systems goto the bus...VERY easy to master.

The best of both worlds would be if they combined the two a/c - but we know that won't happen.

I'm on the ER now and I miss the screens of the NG and the room in the bus...but the trips on the ER are better than both. Good luck in your hunt!

Baja.

Lysithea25 03-05-2012 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Fly782 (Post 1146254)
I have been creeping this thread for a long time now with nothing to contribute. I just have to ask though Carl why are you so in love with SWA? Also why so much hate towards DAL? I am very close to someone who was most likely hired around the time you were at NWA and they love the new changes, mostly more than the old NWA ways... Now there are some complaints ( pay mostly but who isnt upset about that) but the rest is pretty minimal ( Sorry I do not have specifics). Regardless, as someone who someday wants to fly at DAL as my 1st choice and not SWA. I can't help but wonder what is so bad about being a 747 Captain at Delta... Sorry not really a useful post but I am very curious.

So am I. I always have been but been too afraid to ask.

Ferd149 03-05-2012 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1146230)
Ferd;
I think you got the majority of the reason: Training costs. 744B and 777B can already hold M88/90A, so why would they displace directly to it. Instead you'd have a downward training cascade as the guy above you bumps you.

Additionally, it the crew resources news, they said they wanted to shrink ATL 777 and grow DTW 777. Remember, when you take off from ATL to go to asia, 2 hours later you're over DTW. That is a lot of credit to chop off each rotation (approx 3-4 hrs).

Now back to "her honorable Mrs sucking hatch blower."

"What do they want me to do? Cook?"

Looks like we both looked at this the same way. Displace off the top and you get a bigger waterfall than doing it somewhere around/below half. I was fully expecting them to cut the bottom 15 to 20 slots off the Whale and the 777 which would have cascaded. Obviously, the powers at be have decided carrying the extra reserves is cheaper than training.

Tomcat 03-05-2012 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 1146318)
Yes both..As said above the Bus is VERY roomy....I LOVED this. And that's about all I loved. The FMS is strange and the autopilot is the reason for the a/c having the highest # of ATC busts in all of aviation.

The NG is a little cramped, but @ 5'9" I didn't mind too much. As far as flying the NG is great. Easy FMS, great AP, but the overhead is still 60's tech. Systems goto the bus...VERY easy to master.

The best of both worlds would be if they combined the two a/c - but we know that won't happen.

I'm on the ER now and I miss the screens of the NG and the room in the bus...but the trips on the ER are better than both. Good luck in your hunt!

Baja.

Baja is right about the screens. Old and faded on the 320... much better on the 737. I don't like the radar on the 320.

Ferd149 03-05-2012 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1146280)
Are you looking for a VD off of the 330? Without the "premium" widebody stuff getting displacements, it might be tougher to get that. Do you miss Saipan that much???? Just wait a couple more years, or until your 2 year training freeze is up, and then you might be a lot more senior on that 330...

:DNaw just worried that I'd get closer to that reserve thingie. As I told Scambo, loss of slots on the big Boeings and maybe some off the bottom of the A330 would result in me actually paying attention to those bucket discussions:D

No VD for me, I've taken shots.......and I'm really impressed with the Bus. The Boeing box has some better stuff, but the technology and comfort on the Bus is way better. It's a perfect old guy's jet:cool:

Ferd

I've never been to Saipan.........my story and I'm sticken to it, I don't care what the girls in that Godfather place say


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:49 PM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands