Unfortunately, this simplly isn't true. This is not the Delta management of Dave Garrett and prior. Subsequent management sees pilots as the same commodities as the seats, even though they still use the "family" and "you're the best of the best" words in pilot indoc.

They couldn't care less how many of their pilots leave. Experience and even service doesn't mean as much to them as cheapness. The fact that over 50% of our domestic capacity is outsourced to outside bottom feeders who proudly display our Delta brand, is proof.

Carl

I was doing a little math with all this talk about getting paid more in the bigger jets because they fly more people. So in a typical month

747
80 hr month. Average flight say 8 hrs, probably longer, but bear with me. That is 10 total flights. Full jet 393 passengers gives us 3930 passengers moved that month by that pilot.

MD-88
80 hr month. Average flight say 2 hrs as I've seen 4 leg days on them. That is 40 total flights. Full jet 142 passengers gives us 5680 passengers moved that month.

Of course that doesn't take into account the disparity of the price of the ticket for each flight.

Carl;
I would say it is indisputable proof. However, I would separate flt ops mgmt from top mgmt in this regard, not that it ultimately matters. The final conclusion is the same because of the heirarchy.

Rome
 

I'm headed to Rome in a couple of days. Any gouge on the best way to get from FCO to the Hotel Londra Carigill?

Thanks, TC

You have to take into account the miles flown.

passenger seat miles+cargo lb miles = productivity.

Where the 88 has it, hands down, over long haul is currency. Every long haul pilot struggles with maintaining currency. It takes a couple months to nail down a procedural change (like the flaps command) where a domestic pilot has it down after one trip. On the 777 we say "it takes 4 pilots to get it off the gate." There is a lot of truth in that.

Spot on Carl.... and ALPA doesn't seem to care. Had Lee on my jumpseat and in the back of my aircraft prior to giving up scope in 2005-2006, asked him specifically about this, then once angain at the big pilot rally in ATL. So words don't matter with my union, actions do.... I've heard it all and got the handshake.....

Actions speak louder than words.......
TC

Thanks for the help everyone, I got to the bottom of it.

Called crew scheds and they showed me where my accounting error was.

Rocky, like you said, 95% of the time the company is right.

Yeah, that's a pretty easy transfer from the airport. Take the Leonardo Express train nonstop from FCO (outside terminal 3, take the shuttle bus from terminal 5 if you're arriving on DAL) to Termini Station. From there take a taxi if you'd like, it's walkable but Termini is on the edge of a kinda rough neighborhood, particularly at night. If you walk it, leave the station to the west and walk north on Piazza del Cinquecento & through the Republica roundabout to Via Settembre XX, right there to Via Quintino Sella, take a left to the hotel. There's also a bus that heads up Settembre XX from Termini but I forget the number. Probably best to take a taxi. But the Leonardo Express is a much better deal than taking a taxi from the airport unless you have 3+ people.

I wanted to start on the last page and work "backwards" to see what's been said tonight. So I started with your post. Looked at the picture and decided I've seen it all.

Well, good night ya'll.

:)

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