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Originally Posted by maddogmax
(Post 1144708)
Call me! Will give you the scoop.
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 1144776)
Thanks for your help. I hate wearing dirty underwear, you never know when ya might get lucky......I mean in an accident, yeah yeah that's what my grandmother told me:D
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Originally Posted by Gomerglideslope
(Post 1144751)
I think the pay banding model can open up aircraft to junior pilots that may not otherwise be open to them.
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Originally Posted by Seaslap8
(Post 1144760)
DPA is waiting in the wings to do what exactly?...and how are they going to do it?...Are they to follow the APA model or USAPA model to the road to riches?
Independent Pilots Association SWAPA |
Sorry 80kts, I just couldn't resist.
Disclaimer: Take the DPA/D-ALPA arguments to the other thread. I'm so bored with the "flimsy" DPA support, I almost took a full hiatus from L&G about Delta. Here goes "MB".
Originally Posted by More Bacon
(Post 1144763)
Whatever DPA does, they'll do it better, cheaper, and more efficiently than ALPA.
Originally Posted by More Bacon
(Post 1144763)
For starters, they'll have every single cent of Delta dues money dedicated to Delta pilots.
Originally Posted by More Bacon
(Post 1144763)
And they WILL NOT be legally required to subsidize/advocate for regional pilot groups who are trying to take our jobs and erode our quality of life.
Think about it Bacon. I know you're a smart guy. It is MANAGEMENT, let me say it again, IT IS MANAGEMENT, that chooses to run their business the way they do. When this is the case, as it is in any other capitalistic environment, MANAGEMENT chooses to lower costs by OUTSOURCING!! You can offer the argument that D-ALPA, "let it happen", but it is the mainline employee group (i.e. Delta pilots) that will vote for, or against the contract.
Originally Posted by More Bacon
(Post 1144763)
They will hire the best legal and other assistance whose ONLY interests are those of Delta pilots.
Because "hiring the best legal team money can buy" has worked well for the US Air East babies and their USAPA struggle. Run up to CLT sometime and ask them for yourself! Geez man, that's easily the funniest thing anyone has posted in a long while!! You, my good fellow, have missed your calling.
Originally Posted by More Bacon
(Post 1144763)
All of that by itself is enough to sell me. Everything else is gravy.
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Originally Posted by Seaslap8
(Post 1144760)
DPA is waiting in the wings to do what exactly?...and how are they going to do it?...Are they to follow the APA model or USAPA model to the road to riches?
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 1144776)
Thanks for your help. I hate wearing dirty underwear, you never know when ya might get lucky......I mean in an accident, yeah yeah that's what my grandmother told me:D
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
(Post 1144785)
Sorry 80kts, I just couldn't resist.
Disclaimer: Take the DPA/D-ALPA arguments to the other thread. I'm so bored with the "flimsy" DPA support, I almost took a full hiatus from L&G about Delta. Here goes "MB". How are they going to do anything better, more cheaply, or more efficiently than D-ALPA, when they're unable to even garner enough cards to bring their "cause" to a member vote? (Yes, I know Carl thinks their 4400 submitted cards is equivalent to 4400 votes, but please be realistic.):rolleyes: True. They need to get voted in as our bargaining agent first. I know, people believe they will if "D-ALPA fails to perform", but I doubt it. Last time I checked, unless your hallowed DPA has done another "informal poll",:rolleyes: a majority of "regional" guys/gals have aspirations of becoming mainline pilots. Why on God's green earth would they want to take their future position? Or erode a quality of life they hope to one day have? Think about it Bacon. I know you're a smart guy. It is MANAGEMENT, let me say it again, IT IS MANAGEMENT, that chooses to run their business the way they do. When this is the case, as it is in any other capitalistic environment, MANAGEMENT chooses to lower costs by OUTSOURCING!! You can offer the argument that D-ALPA, "let it happen", but it is the mainline employee group (i.e. Delta pilots) that will vote for, or against the contract. BWAHAHAHAHA..........(oh you're killing me)...........HAHAHAHAHAHA.......(hang on a second "Bacon" while I catch my breath................................BWAHAHAHAHAH A.... Because "hiring the best legal team money can buy" has worked well for the US Air East babies and their USAPA struggle. Run up to CLT sometime and ask them for yourself! Geez man, that's easily the funniest thing anyone has posted in a long while!! You, my good fellow, have missed your calling. You've probably never been told you're "cheap", but you sure are "easy"!!:D Good day, GJ If the TA is weak, those 4000 people who did turn in DPA cards (and would easily do it again if needed to re-up their status) will turn into 6500 easily, and then all you need is one more vote than half of the total pilots, and ALPA is GONE. If the TA is weak during this period of HUGE profits, then the vote may come sooner than you think. Go ahead, vote for ALPA, I will cancel your vote if that TA sux. |
Originally Posted by Elvis90
(Post 1144784)
Comparing the successes of SWAPA, to the perceived success of what DPA's "empty promises" of what they think they could bring, if they were our bargaining agent is purely speculative, at best. For gods sake, they can't even muster enough support to reach a point where they're brought to a vote by the collective group. How are they going to stand a chance against management? (Are they going to say something like, "I know we don't have quite the support we think we need to go on strike, but by golly, we have people submitting cards."):rolleyes: Good day, GJ |
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144770)
Well said! For those who aren't aware of the bloated lard at the top of that which we call ALPA please review these numbers:
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144770)
$6,500/mo housing allowance for the President,
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144770)
$4,500/mo housing allowance for V.P.s,
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144770)
$1,600/mo car allowance,
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144770)
$498,000 annual compensation for the President,
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144770)
$120,000/year secretaries,
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144770)
$175,000/year magazine editors,
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144770)
massive bonus pensions,
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144770)
$329 per night hotel rooms,
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144770)
$260 per day per diem, etc.
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