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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1144825)
Someone turn off these damn sirens.
oh wait... it's great when they mention your neighborhood on the tornado warning, but it wasn't bad right here. now wait for the next cell. Hows the A-T-L? |
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144824)
To the best of your knowledge is the data going to be made available in it's entirety and not distilled and "Watergated" with sections and names removed "for security reasons"?:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1144827)
I'm done trying to tame the DALPA/DPA stuff on this thread, haha. If the other mods want to help me out, they can...but I'm the only one it seems lately and it's just not worth the effort.
FWIW, the DPA guys are showing a stronger and stronger presence in ATL. 90% of the guys I fly with have their cards in as well as more and more people that I know personally that I run into ops. Some want to boot ALPA now, most are like me and want to see how the opener is. Not showing the opener to the masses will easily be worth another 500+ cards I would estimate. I've got a couple friends that are rather high up at ALPA National, if you catch my drift. He is pulling the same crap there that he did at DALPA and it is driving them crazy. One of them went so far as to say he understands how the DPA movement got started at Delta now, and why I put my car in. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1144831)
Specifically no. I was told it will be published but the reasons for the fpl may not be identified in every instance.
OK someone make a comment about black helicopters over my house:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144837)
This is just my instinct talking but I have a feeling the most damning info will be removed. Certainly anything that would help a motivated individual track down the waist (including keyboard jockies part of a multi-pronged "social networking education strategy").
OK someone make a comment about black helicopters over my house:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1144804)
It's ok to "mill around" in support of management when management continually keeps you at the top of the payscale, and seems to look out for your interests (with the AT merger). Sounds good. Let's go for that model... Do you NOT want that? (to be at the top of the scale and what seems like support FROM management, along with no RJs and very few code shares)
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
(Post 1144794)
Bill,
I respect your opinion, and to be fair, can only say, "we will see". It is my opinion, that their are more "chest thumping keyboard rangers" than there are people willing to take action if D-ALPA produces something inadequate. Just my .02 GJ Reminds me of the show where the beaten wife won't leave her husband, even when there's plenty of help outside the house. But she can't bring herself to leave him. Some people get used to the abuse, I suppose. Me? uh uh...I'm out. |
Originally Posted by bigbusdriver
(Post 1144815)
Got it. Wearing your uniform at a BBQ and marching around managements office in support of your team in the merger over the other team is okay, but DALPA's "constructive engagement" with management isn't? To put it in simpler terms if DALPA had gone independent before the merger and was working like SWAPA or APA we'd be looking at stapling the NWA guys like AA did to TWA right? Screw the other guy! Its about me, especially if my management is looking out for me. That's a great message. I assume you'll be at the management BBQ with Richard and Ed for the next merger of 'equals' then? The DPA doesn't want a union period. They want to get rid of agency shop and stop paying dues. It's that simple.
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Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1144881)
What were you looking at for the first 20+ years of SWA's existence???? They never led at anything until the others' went backwards.
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Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1144881)
What were you looking at for the first 20+ years of SWA's existence???? They never led at anything until the others' went backwards.
Yo, Shiz! Hope you are not in ATL tonight and hope everyone else in the SE has survived intact. I'll get to the point. Southwest gets paid more than us. Lots more! Their medical kicks @ss. Their scope is pretty good to I hear. We are no longer in the enviable position we were with C2K. Lots of guys out on the line don't want to believe this and try and rationalize these facts away. One of the first steps in fixing this is recognizing the issue and embracing. When we all can get behind this truth, we can focus our energy and win. We can't if guys keep falling for this: Belief Disconfirmation Paradigm
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