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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
(Post 1144804)
It's ok to "mill around" in support of management when management continually keeps you at the top of the payscale, and seems to look out for your interests (with the AT merger). Sounds good. Let's go for that model... Do you NOT want that? (to be at the top of the scale and what seems like support FROM management, along with no RJs and very few code shares)
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Originally Posted by Seaslap8
(Post 1144760)
DPA is waiting in the wings to do what exactly?...and how are they going to do it?...Are they to follow the APA model or USAPA model to the road to riches?
Wait a minute...I just remembered there are some more models. The model used against the TWA pilots, and the model used against ALPA's own union of in house clerical workers. You know what, I'll bet DPA doesn't use any of these 4 models. :rolleyes: Carl |
Originally Posted by bigbusdriver
(Post 1144792)
I head ACL say this wasn't true last year in ATL so I just showed this thread to a C20 rep and he pulled up some ALPA report that he said we can all get to. I don't know how but he said it was on the website. I can't find it so he said
As of last year it's gone, they just rent him something now and he gets taxed on it. Also gone. The current President's car is $383 a month. Wasn't clear if that included insurance and gas. It was reduced(?) to $355,120 and that includes the salary, per diem, value of the apartment and car for IRS taxing purposes and any other imputed income. Said their newsletter explained this better than he could and was also online? Same for this this. He said the President only gets a pensions for the years he's not at the airline getting his 401K. Wasn't sure of percent but said it worked out to less than what we get percentage-wise. Said it was one meeting. Said other stuff was going on and wouldn't elaborate on whether it could have been done somewhere cheaper? Said 2011 President's Per Diem worked out to about $65 per day, but would get back to me on that number as he said TC had done some math wrong in his totals when he copied it. Some might suggest if these reductions did take place it's a direct result of the heat they are feeling from organizations such as DPA. Again, DPA is a good thing, keeping the pressure on to do the right thing and PRODUCE. If the good ol boys club in Herndon does not make some drastic changes and DALPA doesn't quit with the "we know best and the company needs our help", releasing a meager Y2012 contract proposal, sayonara and good riddance to ALPA. If they come up big on the other hand, that will be their saving grace in possibly living another day. While talking to your C20 rep please ask for the FPL data as well. Thank you. |
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144818)
Probably best to get the exact location of this data so we can all look at it. IMHO even if this is correct I still think it's too much considering the BK pay average line pilots are working for.
Some might suggest if these reductions did take place it's a direct result of the heat they are feeling from organizations such as DPA. Again, DPA is a good thing, keeping the pressure on to do the right thing and PRODUCE. If the good ol boys club in Herndon does not make some drastic changes and DALPA doesn't quit with the "we know best and the company needs our help", releasing a meager Y2012 contract proposal, sayonara and good riddance to ALPA. If they come up big on the other hand, that will be their saving grace in possibly living another day. While talking to your C20 please ask for the FPL data as well. Thank you. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1144808)
Oh we talked last year?
Are we talking about the reports that are required to be filed by the us government? |
Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
(Post 1144818)
Probably best to get the exact location of this data so we can all look at it. IMHO even if this is correct I still think it's too much considering the BK pay average line pilots are working for.
Some might suggest if these reductions did take place it's a direct result of the heat they are feeling from organizations such as DPA. Again, DPA is a good thing, keeping the pressure on to do the right thing and PRODUCE. If the good ol boys club in Herndon does not make some drastic changes and DALPA doesn't quit with the "we know best and the company needs our help", releasing a meager Y2012 contract proposal, sayonara and good riddance to ALPA. If they come up big on the other hand, that will be their saving grace in possibly living another day. While talking to your C20 rep please ask for the FPL data as well. Thank you. Treasurer’s Report (Bren Fries) · Review of the 2011 budget. · Review of flight pay loss. A summary of ALPA compensation policies as well as a flight pay loss report will soon be posted to the Treasurer’s page of the MEC website |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1144819)
The fpl data issue has been resolved. It will be published after much sausage making. Perfect? No but at least we are getting it.
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Someone turn off these damn sirens.
oh wait... it's great when they mention your neighborhood on the tornado warning, but it wasn't bad right here. now wait for the next cell. Hows the A-T-L? |
Originally Posted by Gearjerk
(Post 1144794)
Bill,
I respect your opinion, and to be fair, can only say, "we will see". It is my opinion, that their are more "chest thumping keyboard rangers" than there are people willing to take action if D-ALPA produces something inadequate. Just my .02 GJ FWIW, the DPA guys are showing a stronger and stronger presence in ATL. 90% of the guys I fly with have their cards in as well as more and more people that I know personally that I run into ops. Some want to boot ALPA now, most are like me and want to see how the opener is. Not showing the opener to the masses will easily be worth another 500+ cards I would estimate. I've got a couple friends that are rather high up at ALPA National, if you catch my drift. He is pulling the same crap there that he did at DALPA and it is driving them crazy. One of them went so far as to say he understands how the DPA movement got started at Delta now, and why I put my car in. |
Originally Posted by bigbusdriver
(Post 1144821)
We did not. I listend to you talking to some other piltos. He showed me an acrobat file off the DALPA site.
Sorry so many conversations that I do not specifically recall this one. |
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