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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1122518)

AMR has new 737's that DAL could really use. The 777's would also be a benefit for our growth that is coming.

Which 737s is it of which you speak? The ones that have yet to be built?

I don't fly internationally much. Does anyone know if you need a European style plug for our hotel in GRU or will an ordinary plug work?

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by BoyFromSouth (Post 1122550)

I was a little shocked to see DAL stock at 10.30 a share this morning. I knew it would go up but I was not anticipating 8%. Can anyone remember the value of our stock that was given to the pilot group? I thought it was around 9.25 but I could be way off. From the investment people I have spoken with and from the forecast that I have read (Bloomberg report 01/12), analyses are saying it should peak at 16 a share by the fall. Does anyone see this happening?

I am wondering if now is the best time to get rid of the stock they gave us so I can actually start making $ with it.

Thanks,
BFS

Actually, it was around $4 when we got it. I dumped mine recently.

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Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 1122556)

I don't fly internationally much. Does anyone know if you need a European style plug for our hotel in GRU or will an ordinary plug work?

Thanks.

Ordinary worked for me. there are a couple of US style plugs in the room.

Does anyone know when the new "raw score" bucket system is going to be put into practice?

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Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1122571)

Does anyone know when the new "raw score" bucket system is going to be put into practice?

itll be effective for February

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Originally Posted by BoyFromSouth (Post 1122550)

I wouldn't be selling it right now. $16/share may be a bit high of an estimate but chances are you will see at least $13 in the next year.

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1122364)

The point isn't about size, it's about work rules and how the new regs affect those rules. Delta's PWA mirrors the new regs in many areas. The analysis I've seen (and it's preliminary) run over Delta's current network requires a relatively small number of additional pilots. We're already overstaffed in total, just with pilots in "wrong" positions. No more 24 hour international short call drives some of the manning needs, as will the hard flight time limits (no more legal to start, legal to finish). Other airlines with substantially different rules designed for their networks/circumstances/history will have different issues. But I don't see how you get to a 7% increase in Delta manning with the rules as written.

Totally Agree! [see, even I can agree with slow!] ;-)

I would imagine the reserve staffing to be the core issue.
A the handful more reserves on the Intl. categories to cover the loss of 24hr reserves is the one effect.
Rebasing and decentralizing reserves to protect the network will probably be another.
A big factor in the latter is that is that currently reserves required is by base and ALV is by fleet. As a result Delta's strategy has been to centralize reserves for some fleets. With the new rules I expect a shift to more decentralized reserves to protect the network.

Delta certainly isn't worried or we would be hiring right now ;-)
Much bigger things grumbling right now just below the surface.

Cheers
George

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Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1122595)

That's ok, I guess ES was lying to these guys. The other numbers they did throw out were about 600 newhires a year starting next year for atleast a few years initially, due to those rules many of you discount, and retirements. Obviously hiring by the end of the decade will be continuous mainly due to retirements.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1122505)

What you and FtB fail to realize is that the states in question are the swing states for November. Jobs are going to be key in this election. RA sits on the Reserve Board, knows what buttons to push and how to push em.

What you also fail to see is that LUV, LCC and DAL can work in concert on the AMR deal and everyone is seen as a winner, well at least though November.

Airlines play a large, but generally silent part in politics. I do not see that happening this time around. Not with AMR in 1113C. Different game and different times.

LOL, the closest influence any politician will have over AMR's fate is MR.

No question jobs will be important, but GM and Chrysler almost didn't get the government's financial backing for bankruptcy and both of those companies had many more employees and associated suppliers and a more favorable voter sentiment associated with them than the airlines ever had.

AMR is already in CH11, that's a big difference. Its a Texas company. The bases mentioned employ, at best, a couple thousand people in each of those swing states. I'd be surprised if each of those states didn't lay off many more state workers in the past few years, than there are employees in each of those states' AMR hubs. At best few thousand jobs/state.

I'm not belittling the potential for job loss and the terrible impact that might have on the lives of those affected. I'm just pointing out that in context of the greater economy those potentially affected will be little more than collateral damage to the political process.

In the end money talks and the interests of the PBGC will be most represented when it comes to the political aspect of the AMR bankruptcy process due to the massively underfunded pension obligations.

Out of all the airlines, LUV is the only one with the perceived public "goodwill" and the lobbying wallet to shape the political aspect of AMRs future. (JetBlue being a distant second)

Cheers
George