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tim123 01-25-2012 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by flyguy1 (Post 1122645)
The latest word from the Leads Meeting is the DC-9 might be here another year. There is talk of closing MSP and keeping a small 9 base in DTW.
My take is this could be posturing for a lower price on the 717s or could be used if issues arise with Pinnacle.

My prayers would be answered if true.:cool:

gloopy 01-25-2012 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1122512)
it would bode well for larger lift to feed the domestic network. Read, less RJ's.

Great. Put it in writing then.

Even a quick 2 year extension should be able to tighten up the AS code share abuse, give us more say on all future JV's, cut out a few dozen large outsourced RJ's and index 50 seaters to their perpetually falling numbers (that one is zero cost to the company. Zero cost.)

tim123 01-25-2012 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1122617)
LOL, the closest influence any politician will have over AMR's fate is MR.

No question jobs will be important, but GM and Chrysler almost didn't get the government's financial backing for bankruptcy and both of those companies had many more employees and associated suppliers and a more favorable voter sentiment associated with them than the airlines ever had.

AMR is already in CH11, that's a big difference. Its a Texas company. The bases mentioned employ, at best, a couple thousand people in each of those swing states. I'd be surprised if each of those states didn't lay off many more state workers in the past few years, than there are employees in each of those states' AMR hubs. At best few thousand jobs/state.

I'm not belittling the potential for job loss and the terrible impact that might have on the lives of those affected. I'm just pointing out that in context of the greater economy those potentially affected will be little more than collateral damage to the political process.

In the end money talks and the interests of the PBGC will be most represented when it comes to the political aspect of the AMR bankruptcy process due to the massively underfunded pension obligations.

Out of all the airlines, LUV is the only one with the perceived public "goodwill" and the lobbying wallet to shape the political aspect of AMRs future. (JetBlue being a distant second)

Cheers
George

Current feelings in DC seem to not be favorable to texans.

gloopy 01-25-2012 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1122527)
Here is a quick comedy break for the morning. This was on family feud.

Name something a pilot holds while on a long flight. Trust me, its worth a click......

Family Feud 2011-"Pilots & Schlong" - YouTube

LOL OMFG!!!!!! That was almost as Mastercard as this one:

Man Guesses 'Donkey Punch' on 'Jeopardy!' - YouTube

tsquare 01-25-2012 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1122681)
But they do charge those fees. They pre-include 2 bag fees in every ticket, severely punishing those who carry on or only check one bag, including hot chicks that volunteer at animal shelters and plant trees on the weekends, cancer patients, war veterans and the elderly on Social Security.

I think the bag fee disparity favors DL far, far, far more than SW in ATL and elsewhere. Bring it.

I wholeheartedly agree. But when SWA can figure out a way to start charging those bags fees without losing face.. they will.. that or the employees better get used to having a bottom line oriented management.. just like everybody else...

Bring it on..

tsquare 01-25-2012 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1122692)
Great. Put it in writing then.

Even a quick 2 year extension should be able to tighten up the AS code share abuse, give us more say on all future JV's, cut out a few dozen large outsourced RJ's and index 50 seaters to their perpetually falling numbers (that one is zero cost to the company. Zero cost.)

Maybe I have missed something (wouldn't be the first time), but where in the hell is all this talk of an extension coming from? Extension, of a bankruptcy contract????? Any kind of extension will NOT be zero cost to the company.

hoserpilot 01-25-2012 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1122698)
LOL OMFG!!!!!! That was almost as Mastercard as this one:

Man Guesses 'Donkey Punch' on 'Jeopardy!' - YouTube


I had to check urban dictionary ...... Donkey punch...hehehehe

Btw, Hermans wife is on a roll. Her blog is a riot. The polygamy crash pad had my wife rolling in laughter. Reminded us of our crashpadder and hot tub parties. Neighbors gave us weird looks.

buzzpat 01-25-2012 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1122702)
Maybe I have missed something (wouldn't be the first time), but where in the hell is all this talk of an extension coming from? Extension, of a bankruptcy contract????? Any kind of extension will NOT be zero cost to the company.

Out here on the Left Coast we're hearing 20% pay increase effective immediately for two year extension. If there's no work rule and scope improvements, I'm a no.

gloopy 01-25-2012 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1122702)
Maybe I have missed something (wouldn't be the first time), but where in the hell is all this talk of an extension coming from? Extension, of a bankruptcy contract????? Any kind of extension will NOT be zero cost to the company.

I meant limiting 50 seaters to their falling numbers and lowering that limit with every one that leaves the system on a perpetual basis. That is the zero cost item. The company doesn't want those jets, they are getting rid of those jets, yet we still have an umlimited limit. Capping that is zero cost.

Of course that is only one of many things we need to accomplish WRT scope at all levels.

iaflyer 01-25-2012 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1122702)
Maybe I have missed something (wouldn't be the first time), but where in the hell is all this talk of an extension coming from? Extension, of a bankruptcy contract????? Any kind of extension will NOT be zero cost to the company.

I've heard it here too - what I heard was a one year extension for 5% raise. I told the guy that if the company wants a one year extension for something, we better aim higher than that. They must need the extension for something.


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