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I didn't say "meet and agree". Are you back to distorting people's posts when you get proven wrong...again? Here is my post again for your review:
Our section 1 opener CANNOT be produced until after our meetings with the unions of our direct RJ competitors. If no consensus is reached, the ALPA president becomes involved. Those meetings may well be going on as we speak, but my bet is that the MEC will be silent on this. And they will also be silent on what was said in those meetings.
Carl
Carl
The one item I have changed position on is the conflict of interest at ALPA. I too know what I wrote. I ran on there being a conflict. After being told to look at it more closely, I did. The reality is there is not a conflict in the actual sense. It is a perceived conflict, and one that ALPA does a horrible job at correcting.
Conflict of Interest n. a situation in which a person has a duty to more than one person or organization, but cannot do justice to the actual or potentially adverse interests of both parties. This includes when an individual's personal interests or concerns are inconsistent with the best for a customer, or when a public official's personal interests are contrary to his/her loyalty to public business. An attorney, an accountant, a business adviser or realtor cannot represent two parties in a dispute and must avoid even the appearance of conflict. He/she may not join with a client in business without making full disclosure of his/her potential conflicts, he/she must avoid commingling funds with the client, and never, never take a position adverse to the customer.
I'll let others decide what it is we have with ALPA lawyers and other ALPA experts advising both us and the unions of our direct RJ competitors.
Carl
Unbelievable. SWAPA's contract represents C2K restoration regarding pay. SWAPA's contract represents a scope section that we havent had in decades, and you belittle it because you think it's domestic only? What's our biggest problem right now acl...domestic outsourcing or international outsourcing? Wow are you ill-informed.
If you want the goodies out of their contract and add it to the decent stuff in ours, I am all for that, but I also want items out of FDX's PWA as well as a few others. SWAPA's contract deals with their current business model, and will have to be significantly changed with the FT/DT. Ours on the other hand does not. You think a commuter like the possibility of all SC periods on reserve? I think not.
BS. You're making that up entirely. Our MEC won't even discuss SWAPA other than to distort what's in their contract. And you claim the MEC is busy deciding how to pattern above SWAPA? Ridiculous. I believe our MEC is working tirelessly to figure out how they can spin 5% per year and a few more seats given away in scope as a major victory in this "climate". You are clearly working toward the same goal.
No, the charge is to state an objective to do this at all. Our MEC is silent other than to say they will be working for "significant" improvements. That is no plan.
No it wouldn't. You're still laboring under the misperception that ALPA wants large gains for us. You're wrong. Lee does not agree with that. Lee believes in only doing what is best for the company, and what is good for the company will trickle down to us. That's why the Wall Street Journal and RA continue to call him a: "New kind of labor leader."
It is not reality. But I at least give you credit for using the word "probably" as opposed to your normal routine of factless opinions forcefully stated in the hopes they'll be perceived as fact. You can beat your chest all day long about how tough ALPA is, but it's just chest beating. In the end, it'll just make you cough. That's reality.
Carl
Carl
Carl
This is the first Section 6 where Ford-Cooksey has been in place. You claim no pressure from National will be exerted on us regarding scope. Will we be able to determine if your claim is correct this time by reading transcripts of the meetings between our MEC and National? Or must we just agree to your claim...because you claim it?
Carl
Carl
Like I said, there is no proof only speculation. Until there is hard proof of it, it is just a scare tactic. If we do see proof of it, I will agree with there being a serious conflict. Seeing what I see wrt to that, we will confer, but carry on with what we choose to do, no matter what they say. If that changes, and you can provide factual proof, show it.
Carl
This whining over the opener is getting pretty old. It's right at 2 months away, and that will go by quick. If we don't get shown it, then there is good reason for a massive uproar.
The past few pages has been nothing but
The past few pages has been nothing but
Sorry, it is a conflict of interest!
"Perception is reality". If you think it's just a perceived conflict, then its an actual conflict.
We both know that ALPA wants/needs to be able to say they represent X thousands of pilots. It makes their job easier in DC. I get it. However, don't lie to me saying that you can represent both sides equitably.
"Perception is reality". If you think it's just a perceived conflict, then its an actual conflict.
We both know that ALPA wants/needs to be able to say they represent X thousands of pilots. It makes their job easier in DC. I get it. However, don't lie to me saying that you can represent both sides equitably.
Conflict of Interest n. a situation in which a person has a duty to more than one person or organization, but cannot do justice to the actual or potentially adverse interests of both parties. This includes when an individual's personal interests or concerns are inconsistent with the best for a customer, or when a public official's personal interests are contrary to his/her loyalty to public business. An attorney, an accountant, a business adviser or realtor cannot represent two parties in a dispute and must avoid even the appearance of conflict. He/she may not join with a client in business without making full disclosure of his/her potential conflicts, he/she must avoid commingling funds with the client, and never, never take a position adverse to the customer.
You decide.
Carl
That is your opinion. I'm certain it's your opinion because you're trying to shout out your worth to the MEC as a shameless spinmeister. There is a great need for that in our MEC. But this is from my legal dictionary:
Conflict of Interest n. a situation in which a person has a duty to more than one person or organization, but cannot do justice to the actual or potentially adverse interests of both parties. This includes when an individual's personal interests or concerns are inconsistent with the best for a customer, or when a public official's personal interests are contrary to his/her loyalty to public business. An attorney, an accountant, a business adviser or realtor cannot represent two parties in a dispute and must avoid even the appearance of conflict. He/she may not join with a client in business without making full disclosure of his/her potential conflicts, he/she must avoid commingling funds with the client, and never, never take a position adverse to the customer.
I'll let others decide what it is we have with ALPA lawyers and other ALPA experts advising both us and the unions of our direct RJ competitors.
Carl
Conflict of Interest n. a situation in which a person has a duty to more than one person or organization, but cannot do justice to the actual or potentially adverse interests of both parties. This includes when an individual's personal interests or concerns are inconsistent with the best for a customer, or when a public official's personal interests are contrary to his/her loyalty to public business. An attorney, an accountant, a business adviser or realtor cannot represent two parties in a dispute and must avoid even the appearance of conflict. He/she may not join with a client in business without making full disclosure of his/her potential conflicts, he/she must avoid commingling funds with the client, and never, never take a position adverse to the customer.
I'll let others decide what it is we have with ALPA lawyers and other ALPA experts advising both us and the unions of our direct RJ competitors.
Carl
Have did the ALPA lawyers represent both Ford and Cooksey as well as us when the lawsuit was going on?
When there is a direct conflict of a regional with a mainline do the ALPA lawyers represent both?
The answer is, no.
When it comes to the company, When was the last time that a regional was negotiating with Delta Air Lines? The flow agreements are two party agreements that have a regional agreement and a mainline agreement that mirrors each other for that very reason. Comair dealt with their management and ASA with theirs.
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