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Old 04-26-2012 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
There is not one chance that Delta will pick up aircraft that require them to take pilots. Talk to you reps they just might have some news for you on this issue. Sometimes its good to have a working relationship with management.
I hope you're right and I honestly don't think the AT scope/M&A is so strong as to require pilots to go with replacement planes when their scope/M&A was just found so weak SW threatened to operate them separately and phase them out completely.

So DL gets used planes that are 100% (or more) replaced and pilots have to come with, but SW can shut the whole thing down and not even give the furloughed pilots a staple? I just can't sink my teeth into that logic. Not to mention, even if their wording was so cosmically strong that it really did require the extremely unprecidented sport bidding of pilots going with fleet refresh planes (at full ratio/relative no less! LOL!) if those planes touched Boeing or anywhere else first, how could AT force DL to take pilots anyway even if the AT contract had pretend "shadow" language? Its completely unenforceable. Yeah yeah, another DFR suit. Get in line and do what you gotta do cause we ain't taking pilots from a 10% asset sale that is being 100% replaced with no furloughs. At least I hope we're not.
Old 04-27-2012 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Management does not want to deal with the intergration and culture issues either.

Lets hope the contract negotiations continue to go well. The company is giving up considerable leverage on this issue. "Dalpa, Your contract proposal is terrible and we are done talking and request mediation. Company, No problem we will see you in mediation however we should mention we are picking up some 717's as a bridge aircraft. We are only going to operate them for 3 or 4 years but will also bring a 1000 more pilots to Delta so we don't have to do any training. Get your arbitration lawyers back on retainer! Let us know when the SLI list is done."
Old 04-27-2012 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Lets hope the contract negotiations continue to go well. The company is giving up considerable leverage on this issue. "Dalpa, Your contract proposal is terrible and we are done talking and request mediation. Company, No problem we will see you in mediation however we should mention we are picking up some 717's as a bridge aircraft. We are only going to operate them for 3 or 4 years but will also bring a 1000 more pilots to Delta so we don't have to do any training. Get your arbitration lawyers back on retainer! Let us know when the SLI list is done."

Do you post this stuff so that we'll all go hide in bunkers?

Should we give RA all the titles that North Korea has given chia pet #2?
Old 04-27-2012 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
I flew 727 S/O with a "dual pool" slot as DC-9 F/O. They would only call you for a dual pool assignment if they ran out of reserves, because then they had to pay you the monthly guarantee on the higher equipment. That meant you were rarely used, and only semi-proficient -- a questionable situation if both pilots were "dual pools".
Eventually, they dropped the program in favor of "green slips" as a safer way to handle reserve shortages.

Thanks for filling in the details on that Tom. It was before my time but I did hear a lot of cockpit talk about it as a newb, based in MIA.
Old 04-27-2012 | 04:08 AM
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Guys, quick question about IOE causing trip conflict/drop.

I had a trip on my sked per PBS prior to the end of training. IOE was placed on my sked which conflicted and dropped my original trip. Should I be credited the dropped trip, or is an IOE trip conflict a different animal?

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Old 04-27-2012 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Lets hope the contract negotiations continue to go well. The company is giving up considerable leverage on this issue. "Dalpa, Your contract proposal is terrible and we are done talking and request mediation. Company, No problem we will see you in mediation however we should mention we are picking up some 717's as a bridge aircraft. We are only going to operate them for 3 or 4 years but will also bring a 1000 more pilots to Delta so we don't have to do any training. Get your arbitration lawyers back on retainer! Let us know when the SLI list is done."
There's a thread for this.
Old 04-27-2012 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
Guys, quick question about IOE causing trip conflict/drop.

I had a trip on my sked per PBS prior to the end of training. IOE was placed on my sked which conflicted and dropped my original trip. Should I be credited the dropped trip, or is an IOE trip conflict a different animal?

Thanks!

If I am following what you are asking, you bid a scedule but you were not qualified to fly it. This determines you pay hours for the month. That is all it does.
Old 04-27-2012 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
There's a thread for this.
... and it is this one!
Old 04-27-2012 | 04:18 AM
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Are Carl and 88 in the methadone clinic? Carl hasn't even commented on some of the excellent photos posted.
Old 04-27-2012 | 04:21 AM
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... and it is this one!
My bad. I thought it was an entry for the TOD thread. As far as satire goes, it was wonderful.

Wait... you think he was serious?
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