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Absolutely. In fact, just before I got hired, there were guys who were in what was called the "Dual Pool", they were qualed on two airplanes, like DC9 F/O and DC 8 engineer, and they were on reserve, for Both! Scheds could/would call you out for either one! If you were getting close on landing currency, you called scheds and they'd get you on a trip to get your landings. I knew guys who were both 737 F/O's and 727 F/E's.
Eventually, they dropped the program in favor of "green slips" as a safer way to handle reserve shortages.
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Actually they are both extremely weak and are falling compared to things they both buy, but that's another issue. At least if the Euro falls faster than the Dollar for a while Americans won't be as hard hit when they go and maybe we can keep demand from falling proportionate to their economy.
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So DL gets used planes that are 100% (or more) replaced and pilots have to come with, but SW can shut the whole thing down and not even give the furloughed pilots a staple? I just can't sink my teeth into that logic. Not to mention, even if their wording was so cosmically strong that it really did require the extremely unprecidented sport bidding of pilots going with fleet refresh planes (at full ratio/relative no less! LOL!) if those planes touched Boeing or anywhere else first, how could AT force DL to take pilots anyway even if the AT contract had pretend "shadow" language? Its completely unenforceable. Yeah yeah, another DFR suit. Get in line and do what you gotta do cause we ain't taking pilots from a 10% asset sale that is being 100% replaced with no furloughs. At least I hope we're not.
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Lets hope the contract negotiations continue to go well. The company is giving up considerable leverage on this issue. "Dalpa, Your contract proposal is terrible and we are done talking and request mediation. Company, No problem we will see you in mediation however we should mention we are picking up some 717's as a bridge aircraft. We are only going to operate them for 3 or 4 years but will also bring a 1000 more pilots to Delta so we don't have to do any training. Get your arbitration lawyers back on retainer! Let us know when the SLI list is done."
Lets hope the contract negotiations continue to go well. The company is giving up considerable leverage on this issue. "Dalpa, Your contract proposal is terrible and we are done talking and request mediation. Company, No problem we will see you in mediation however we should mention we are picking up some 717's as a bridge aircraft. We are only going to operate them for 3 or 4 years but will also bring a 1000 more pilots to Delta so we don't have to do any training. Get your arbitration lawyers back on retainer! Let us know when the SLI list is done."
Do you post this stuff so that we'll all go hide in bunkers?
Should we give RA all the titles that North Korea has given chia pet #2?
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I flew 727 S/O with a "dual pool" slot as DC-9 F/O. They would only call you for a dual pool assignment if they ran out of reserves, because then they had to pay you the monthly guarantee on the higher equipment. That meant you were rarely used, and only semi-proficient -- a questionable situation if both pilots were "dual pools".
Eventually, they dropped the program in favor of "green slips" as a safer way to handle reserve shortages.
Eventually, they dropped the program in favor of "green slips" as a safer way to handle reserve shortages.
Thanks for filling in the details on that Tom. It was before my time but I did hear a lot of cockpit talk about it as a newb, based in MIA.
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IOE trip pay question
Guys, quick question about IOE causing trip conflict/drop.
I had a trip on my sked per PBS prior to the end of training. IOE was placed on my sked which conflicted and dropped my original trip. Should I be credited the dropped trip, or is an IOE trip conflict a different animal?
Thanks!
I had a trip on my sked per PBS prior to the end of training. IOE was placed on my sked which conflicted and dropped my original trip. Should I be credited the dropped trip, or is an IOE trip conflict a different animal?
Thanks!
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Lets hope the contract negotiations continue to go well. The company is giving up considerable leverage on this issue. "Dalpa, Your contract proposal is terrible and we are done talking and request mediation. Company, No problem we will see you in mediation however we should mention we are picking up some 717's as a bridge aircraft. We are only going to operate them for 3 or 4 years but will also bring a 1000 more pilots to Delta so we don't have to do any training. Get your arbitration lawyers back on retainer! Let us know when the SLI list is done."
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