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Old 04-26-2012, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude View Post
NWA had a real "disaster waiting to happen" dual qualification in the contract prior to the 98 lockout. It was one of the things they struck over. I was hired post strike so I didn't experience it, but I've heard some pretty ridiculous stories about it. Maybe Carl or Newk can elaborate.
I got hired in '95 and luckily avoided it. For some reason, I don't think they were doing it too much back then, if at all. I remember hearing stories, too. If my memory is correct, there might even have been guys who were qualified on three airplanes / or three different seats, at the same time. Yikes.
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:37 PM
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Dunno if you guys have heard yet, but some interesting news coming out of the Compass Chief Pilot's Office the last few days....

1. Delta has confirmed 110 flowups in "early 1Q 2013," letters to be sent out later this summer. Obviously it's not final till my butt is sitting in class, but CPS is sure enough of it to be spooling up our own hiring in the fall. If the ratio from the last flow-up holds true, this implies at least 360 total newhires, and possibly more as 110 is the maximum that can flow in one year (1/4 of our total list).

2. We just signed an agreement with Delta to extend guaranteed interviews to all Compass pilots not covered by the flow (ie anyone hired after 8/2010). Applicants have to meet all DAL requirements and go through the entire Delta interview.
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:48 PM
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That is pretty awesome news.

Truth is, this is shaping up to be a banner DAL year: Record profits, more aircraft, TA before amendable date, (unknown merger), etc. The eurozone is the current fly in the ointment for maybe other things.
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus View Post
Dunno if you guys have heard yet, but some interesting news coming out of the Compass Chief Pilot's Office the last few days....

1. Delta has confirmed 110 flowups in "early 1Q 2013," letters to be sent out later this summer. Obviously it's not final till my butt is sitting in class, but CPS is sure enough of it to be spooling up our own hiring in the fall. If the ratio from the last flow-up holds true, this implies at least 360 total newhires, and possibly more as 110 is the maximum that can flow in one year (1/4 of our total list).

2. We just signed an agreement with Delta to extend guaranteed interviews to all Compass pilots not covered by the flow (ie anyone hired after 8/2010). Applicants have to meet all DAL requirements and go through the entire Delta interview.

That is interesting news. Thanks for sharing. Hoping it comes true.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus View Post
Dunno if you guys have heard yet, but some interesting news coming out of the Compass Chief Pilot's Office the last few days....

1. Delta has confirmed 110 flowups in "early 1Q 2013," letters to be sent out later this summer. Obviously it's not final till my butt is sitting in class, but CPS is sure enough of it to be spooling up our own hiring in the fall. If the ratio from the last flow-up holds true, this implies at least 360 total newhires, and possibly more as 110 is the maximum that can flow in one year (1/4 of our total list).

2. We just signed an agreement with Delta to extend guaranteed interviews to all Compass pilots not covered by the flow (ie anyone hired after 8/2010). Applicants have to meet all DAL requirements and go through the entire Delta interview.
Why would you have to hire 360 to replace 110?
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:09 PM
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Why would you have to hire 360 to replace 110?
I believe 110 is the maximum number of Compass pilots that can flow annually. It's 1/4 of the current Compass seniority list. The OP is implying that if 110 Compass guys were to flow, it's like that Delta will be hiring off the street as well.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude View Post
NWA had a real "disaster waiting to happen" dual qualification in the contract prior to the 98 lockout. It was one of the things they struck over. I was hired post strike so I didn't experience it, but I've heard some pretty ridiculous stories about it. Maybe Carl or Newk can elaborate.
True story. My OE instructor on the -9 had spent the prior 10 months on the 727, was flying the -9 the month I had OE while studying his DC-10 books to attend Requal the next month, only to be back on the 727 the following month.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:12 PM
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True story. My OE instructor on the -9 had spent the prior 10 months on the 727, was flying the -9 the month I had OE while studying his DC-10 books to attend Requal the next month, only to be back on the 727 the following month.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:14 PM
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What could possibly go wrong?
It was absolutely insane.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lolwut View Post
Why would you have to hire 360 to replace 110?
Sorry, my wording was a bit imprecise. 110 Compass flowups implies at least 360 total DELTA newhires. My reasoning is that Compass can only flow 20 per month, so 110 equals six months of hiring, and Delta hired a total of 60 per month the last two times around (two classes of 30). 6*60=360. More are possible because, as I mentioned, 110 is the maximum number that can flow from Compass in any 12-month period. On the other hand, it's always possible that they're *only* planning on taking Compass (and Mesaba) flowups. I think that's unlikely, though.
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