Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-06-2012 | 07:39 PM
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02-06-2012 | 07:41 PM
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We're expensive compared to the other employee groups. That's because in general we have more disposable income so it's less of a decision point for a pilot family whether or not to go to the doctor.
02-06-2012 | 07:42 PM
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02-06-2012 | 07:44 PM
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You actually stated in here why it is such an incredible uphill battle- we don't vote on any of the committee people or the chair, which is redonkulous. And recalling the reps to effect change? You've got to do that at every base. It's a system that is set up to resist change, particularly at DALPA.
I'm all for effecting the change and getting the ball moving. I've got my card in at the DPA, but I don't think anything is going to come of it. Rally those guys together and you could whitewash the current stalwart generation.
I'm all for effecting the change and getting the ball moving. I've got my card in at the DPA, but I don't think anything is going to come of it. Rally those guys together and you could whitewash the current stalwart generation.
Yes, it's convoluded, and yes, it is an uphill battle, but then again, so is anything that is worthwhile.
You've pointed out that calling your reps is pointless. I agree. So are forwarding resolutions, only to see them ignored. That's why you need reps with the intenstinal fortitude to make the tough calls and do the right thing, despite the overriding pressure to keep the status quo and to "work the room" in the interest of showboating a worthless "consensus".
If the current batch can't cut it, pffft, then maybe their talents are better suited to doing something else.
For better or worse, we are all creatures of action, in one form or another, and we respond to that same characteristic in others. THAT is why the DPA hasn't gone anywhere. Take the recent LEC 20 election. A %25 turn out. Only a quarter of the pilots in one of the most "agitated" crew bases at the airline could be bothered to go onto the internet and vote.
DPA supposedly has a lot of support in DTW, but there's a lot of resistance to folks who are untested (which seems to be one of the primary complaints about them here). What BETTER way to show you can mobilize (there's that action thing) and run things by getting one of your guys elected to the MEC...a BLATENT show of force in numbers.
They didn't even need to participate in the nomination process. All they had to do is run a write in campaign and get a measly 293 votes (assuming they didn't take any away from the existing candidates). Out of 4,000 "cards", they couldn't find 300 guys to write in a name on a ballot?
It would have been the best free advertising they ever could have imagined. People would have said "damn, maybe there's something to that"....
But nope. Can't be bothered.
Can you?
Nu
02-06-2012 | 07:46 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
But, I thought installing fun bags on Mrs. Lebowski was considered elective surgery and not covered.
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02-06-2012 | 07:50 PM
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Do, or do not, there is no try.
Yes, it's convoluded, and yes, it is an uphill battle, but then again, so is anything that is worthwhile.
You've pointed out that calling your reps is pointless. I agree. So are forwarding resolutions, only to see them ignored. That's why you need reps with the intenstinal fortitude to make the tough calls and do the right thing, despite the overriding pressure to keep the status quo and to "work the room" in the interest of showboating a worthless "consensus".
If the current batch can't cut it, pffft, then maybe their talents are better suited to doing something else.
For better or worse, we are all creatures of action, in one form or another, and we respond to that same characteristic in others. THAT is why the DPA hasn't gone anywhere. Take the recent LEC 20 election. A %25 turn out. Only a quarter of the pilots in one of the most "agitated" crew bases at the airline could be bothered to go onto the internet and vote.
DPA supposedly has a lot of support in DTW, but there's a lot of resistance to folks who are untested (which seems to be one of the primary complaints about them here). What BETTER way to show you can mobilize (there's that action thing) and run things by getting one of your guys elected to the MEC...a BLATENT show of force in numbers.
They didn't even need to participate in the nomination process. All they had to do is run a write in campaign and get a measly 293 votes (assuming they didn't take any away from the existing candidates). Out of 4,000 "cards", they couldn't find 300 guys to write in a name on a ballot?
It would have been the best free advertising they ever could have imagined. People would have said "damn, maybe there's something to that"....
But nope. Can't be bothered.
Can you?
Nu
Yes, it's convoluded, and yes, it is an uphill battle, but then again, so is anything that is worthwhile.
You've pointed out that calling your reps is pointless. I agree. So are forwarding resolutions, only to see them ignored. That's why you need reps with the intenstinal fortitude to make the tough calls and do the right thing, despite the overriding pressure to keep the status quo and to "work the room" in the interest of showboating a worthless "consensus".
If the current batch can't cut it, pffft, then maybe their talents are better suited to doing something else.
For better or worse, we are all creatures of action, in one form or another, and we respond to that same characteristic in others. THAT is why the DPA hasn't gone anywhere. Take the recent LEC 20 election. A %25 turn out. Only a quarter of the pilots in one of the most "agitated" crew bases at the airline could be bothered to go onto the internet and vote.
DPA supposedly has a lot of support in DTW, but there's a lot of resistance to folks who are untested (which seems to be one of the primary complaints about them here). What BETTER way to show you can mobilize (there's that action thing) and run things by getting one of your guys elected to the MEC...a BLATENT show of force in numbers.
They didn't even need to participate in the nomination process. All they had to do is run a write in campaign and get a measly 293 votes (assuming they didn't take any away from the existing candidates). Out of 4,000 "cards", they couldn't find 300 guys to write in a name on a ballot?
It would have been the best free advertising they ever could have imagined. People would have said "damn, maybe there's something to that"....
But nope. Can't be bothered.
Can you?
Nu
02-06-2012 | 07:55 PM
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02-06-2012 | 07:56 PM
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Those after market mods can be quite pricey.
02-06-2012 | 07:57 PM
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02-06-2012 | 07:58 PM
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