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scambo1 02-10-2012 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1132681)
You guys have convinced me. The DL/NW merger screwed us all. I mean let's look at the two major carriers that missed out on this last round of consolidation: AMR and LCC. They are just burning it up, their pilots are getting massive raises, their airlines are growing like mad, they are getting huge profit sharing checks and their futures are super bright. Man I wish we were just like them.

Alfa;

You left out the part about how if ALPA screws that up again they are off the property.:D

Ferd149 02-10-2012 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1132739)
What you forget is we both had WB jets and could do a overall category status SLI. A NKS, B6, ALK, etc does not have those seats so a pure category status would probably not be the way it would go down.

I'm not forgetting that at all! Yes, those guys don't have widebody JOBS and as such nothing for them to ratio in. However, they will have applicable narrowbody JOBS and will be ratio accordingly, putting some young guys (if NKS or ALK) around the middle of our current list.

I'm not complaining about our list at all. As Bar points out, the arbitrator correctly called what happened and the ratio done accordingly. I think it's naive to think it won't go that way again. I have no dog in this fight as I'll be long gone........just looking into my crystal ball.

Ferd
(my last post on the issue - my new year's resolution was no serious posts on here.......underboob and flash mobs only:D)

shiznit 02-10-2012 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1132674)
Give the boys credit, that's a pretty slick idea, sky writing with a 787:

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...d/temp1-22.png

Boy that logo to the right of the 787 looks an awful lot like the neon sign at LGB...
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f.../flydcjets.jpg

Test pilots must have been Douglas drivers back in the day....

shiznit 02-10-2012 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1132685)
Yeah, and don't they know that businessmen would rather have FREQUENCY on smaller, tighter planes than have a few choices per day on larger, more roomy planes? Everyone KNOWS that.

Larger, roomy planes? More frequency? You've clearly never flown on a Spirit plane or seen their schedules.:rolleyes:

Spirit A320: 178 pax, 17" seat width, 28" pitch
DAL A320: 148 pax, 17" seat width, 31-32" pitch

That 3-4 inch pitch increase makes a difference if you are taller than 5'5".:eek:

Rudder 02-10-2012 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 1132727)
At the risk of reigniting this whole SLI thing, which I really DON'T want to do, let me simply state my personal history:

Roughly 900+ original DAL pilots hired after me were put on the list in front of me, and every single one of them is younger than me. I didn't like it then, I'm not thrilled about it now, and it got me permanently displaced from my left seat. It is also water under the bridge. It is pointless to expend energy over something you have zero control over.


Did you get displaced out of the left side simply due to the SLI or by how the company moved airplanes around? How did your side gain a little by relative and still lose simply by the SLI?

TeddyKGB 02-10-2012 11:23 AM

Has anyone been following the results of the DPA pay raise survey with instant results? Almost 800 people have already taken it and it's only been open a day.

shiznit 02-10-2012 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1132797)
Has anyone been following the results of the DPA pay raise survey with instant results? Almost 800 people have already taken it and it's only been open a day.

Nope.

My Negotiating Committee Speaks For Me.

DAL 88 Driver 02-10-2012 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1132798)
Nope.

My Negotiating Committee Speaks For Me.

Do they think for you too? :p

chuck416 02-10-2012 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1132534)
I am sure. It is a great deal for senior pilots the way it used to be. We got what we wanted, and not we are not happy with it. The good deal of sitting reserve on a bigger jet for the junior guys is going. It respects seniority. Not good for me personally, but good for the pilots that want reserve to respect seniority, as it should.

I have to agree with you on this one. Not to my advantage, as I am sitting pretty senior (right now, anyway) on reserve in my category. But if seniority is what it is supposed to be (a respecter of SSN) then this should be viewed as a 'win' for the pilots. The old adage, 'don't bid it if you don't want it' ought to be observed before we drool over vacancies. Standing by for incoming....

forgot to bid 02-10-2012 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1132784)
Boy that logo to the right of the 787 looks an awful lot like the neon sign at LGB...
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/f.../flydcjets.jpg

Test pilots must have been Douglas drivers back in the day....

Damn straight Shizzy!


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