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Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1102964)

Last time I checked, we voted in the contract with the current scope clause which allowed DCI to become what it is today. We need to take some blame, too.

We only get to vote on what our representatives deliver.

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1103043)

Hint, they also have planes in LGA with cute little critters on the tail.

(Not Alaska)

If it were cute little tails on the critters, then it would be Freedom.

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1103025)

Is this the puzzle for kids in the back of the December SKY magazine?

Numbers 4, 6, and 11 are the same girl.

Numbers 5, 3, and 9 are also the same girl.

Number 10 is Mrs FTB.

What do I win?

You must be a face man. I was only thinking how overdressed they were.

Slot Swap... What a disappointment. Massive infrastructure expenditure to support more outsourcing. It's no surprise now that the last bid was a net zero. To say that this supports upgauging in other hubs ignores the fact that no new captain seats are available to anyone in the system on a net basis. If a market like NYC can't support mainline service, then why would DTW, SLC, MSP be able to do so?

What's more, this represents a major downgrade to our product. Our HVC's will leave in droves after being subjected to the regional experience. In a market like NYC, with all the media exposure, this impending service disaster will likely lead to more reactionary laws and 'customer bill of rights' type of legislation that will further erode our careers and the status of the airline we work for. FAIL : (

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1103025)

Is this the puzzle for kids in the back of the December SKY magazine?

Numbers 4, 6, and 11 are the same girl.

Numbers 5, 3, and 9 are also the same girl.

Number 10 is Mrs FTB.

What do I win?

Is that why she's the only one smiling? :)

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1103042)

Bar must know something I don't.

Just doing the math. The E145 is a smaller, lighter, cheaper, alternative to the CRJ with lower costs all around and better runway performance. ASA is now Expressjet. Skywest has Delta under contract for years ... .

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Originally Posted by STINKY (Post 1102941)

Is bringing the RJ in house and be the starting aircraft at Delta to much to ask?

Apparently so....

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Originally Posted by contrails (Post 1102952)

There was a "Should Compass be stapled?" poll back when that was being discussed and it included four different levels of response with varying criteria for the yes or no.

Go do a search for it on here and see the astonishing number of your peers who voted a full fledged, no exceptions, "NO" for the staple idea which would place the E175 at mainline.

That argument is moot anyway. It ain't gonna happen no mater how much we would want it.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1102873)

What many are not going to see because it was not in a sound bite is this: DAL will be pulling more and more RJ lift out of other hubs like ATL in favor of mainline aircraft. Those 50 seat RJ's that were in ATL are going to go to MEM and those jets that were in MEM will be performing flying in LGA. It is not a a simple addition of mainline flying in LGA that we will see. It is the effect on the other hubs that we will need to take note of.

Aren't you assuming that for that to be true the # of rj's remaining the same?Didn't the company recently sign a new agreement with gojet?So I think thus new rj expansion could be funded with the new influx of gojet aircraft and no effect on the other hubs that you mentioned.With respect to the erj questions of who operates them,asa/expressjet,chautauqua,and wasn't the gojet announcement for erj's or not?

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1102947)

Do not mistake me offering logic for a lack of desire to reign in outsourcing. Far from it. At a min, I want a sunset clause for all DCI CPA's and a moratorium on all new contracts or extensions. The stuff needs to be flown here, period. My point is that, LGA will provide growth for DAL pilots, even under the current section 1, and I explained how.

You are right too Scambo, we gave it away, and now we are seeing the fruits of the concession. Ten plus years of stagnation, and unless we get all of Section 1 right, whether it be in a extension, modification, or a completed traditional section 6, this has to be fixed, period.

A sunset clause does little if anything for a lot of us on the list. Sure, I am senior enough that I won't be flying those airplanes, but a sunset clause on those airplanes won't take effect until I am at or near retirement. If that is sufficient for you then fine, I couldn't care less, but as has been pointed out these things affect more than just the lower half of the list.

And I still fail to see how this will garner any meaningful growth for the mainline pilots. This announcement just reinforces that this is a fantasy.