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Cycle Pilot 12-17-2011 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1103168)
Fellow reserve guys... is there anyway to put in a request that says, "I don't want short call, but if I have to, make it after a certain time?" All I can find is the "put yourself first in line for short call" method.

I wish we had some easy way to do this, but really the only way is to give them a call. Seems like it'd be easy to add a feature where we could request a certain time, but it would probably need some kind of contract change.

flyallnite 12-17-2011 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1103212)
Why do people continue to make stuff up just to suit their own misguided complaints???

Cut and Pasted directly from the Jan. 2012 Crew Resources Update:

42 positions already filled by displaced dc9 captains. That is a net zero my friend. Or as close to zero as to be statistically insignificant.

Amish Pilot 12-17-2011 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1103168)
Fellow reserve guys... is there anyway to put in a request that says, "I don't want short call, but if I have to, make it after a certain time?" All I can find is the "put yourself first in line for short call" method.

I don't know why, I thought this was funny......I just got my 6th short call for tomorrow. Well at least I don't have to worry about getting it on 24,25 or 26th. To answer you question, I think you need to call them. I don't, as I try to limit my reserve contact with crew sked to the computer only. :eek:

CVG767A 12-17-2011 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1103270)
42 positions already filled by displaced dc9 captains. That is a net zero my friend. Or as close to zero as to be statistically insignificant.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the A330 pay a little more than the DC9?

Timbo 12-17-2011 11:29 AM

And it also pays LESS than the 30 777 and 15 747 Capt. displacements from the last two bids...

Just say'n.

BUT...why are you guys focused on that nonsense, when you should be thinking about THIS!

It's time for Tim Tebow to get a WAG

Boomer 12-17-2011 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by RoughLandings (Post 1103162)
They're all the same girl. Keely Hazell. Do a Google image search, you won't be disappointed.

Keely and I go back a few years. I guess I wasn't looking long enough at the face (contrary to Scambo's post).

My favorite Katherine Hepburn has always been Keely Hazell.

When did she marry FTB?

flyallnite 12-17-2011 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1103283)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the A330 pay a little more than the DC9?

Does that matter to the 30 displaced 777 Captains? Net Zero.

nwaf16dude 12-17-2011 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by Amish Pilot (Post 1103278)
I don't know why, I thought this was funny......I just got my 6th short call for tomorrow. Well at least I don't have to worry about getting it on 24,25 or 26th. To answer you question, I think you need to call them. I don't, as I try to limit my reserve contact with crew sked to the computer only. :eek:

It was, as most of my posts, intended to be at least a little funny. guess I should have used one of those little smiley things.

I did call them, and I actually ended up not getting short-call at all, which was a pleasant surprise.

shiznit 12-17-2011 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1103270)
42 positions already filled by displaced dc9 captains. That is a net zero my friend. Or as close to zero as to be statistically insignificant.

Let's start with I don't know you so I'm not sure we're friends.
Second, let me give you the definition of "net" as applied here:


net (nhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ebreve.gift)adj.1. Business a. Remaining after all deductions have been made, as for expenses: net profit.
So, let's do a little lesson.

A "net" of zero means that after deductions (MEM DC9 CA in our case) there will be the same number of total captains as before the AE.

Here is the quote again from Crew Resources so you can re-read it:

One of the primary drivers of the Nov AE was the addition of 39 330 crews. This helped contribute to a net total of 42 new Captain positions being created from the AE. Some of the new captain positions were filled by upward movement from lower positions, including the DC9.
There is NOT a "net zero" as you claim. There is a NET GAIN of 42 new Captain positions being created.

Simply put, you are wrong. A net increase of 42 captain positions system wide, and ALL of them are at a pay grade greater than the DC9.

There are some real problems we are facing, this isn't one of them so take your straw man and go home.:mad:

flyallnite 12-17-2011 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1103331)
Let's start with I don't know you so I'm not sure we're friends.
Second, let me give you the definition of "net" as applied here:



So, let's do a little lesson.

A "net" of zero means that after deductions (MEM DC9 CA in our case) there will be the same number of total captains as before the AE.

Here is the quote again from Crew Resources so you can re-read it:


There is NOT a "net zero" as you claim. There is a NET GAIN of 42 new Captain positions being created.

Simply put, you are wrong. A net increase of 42 captain positions system wide, and ALL of them are at a pay grade greater than the DC9.

There are some real problems we are facing, this isn't one of them so take your straw man and go home.:mad:

I'm sorry, you must have missed the displacements off of the 777 and 747, our two highest paying categories. My point is that there are few, IF ANY new Captains at Delta these days while our company embarks on a massive new hub expansion with NON DL PILOTS.

This is a real problem, my friend, and I'm already home:)


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