Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 1097019)

I guess I don't "get it"...

My impression is Randy Babbitt was a better FAA Administrator than most, who are typically clueless political appointees. I don't know the man personally, but I find his arrest for DUI sad.

I don't find humor or joy in his misfortune....

Originally Posted by bigbusdriver (Post 1097034)

The NWA JV with KLM said that NW would share 50% with KLM and that 47% (46% was the floor) was in compliance. We had a 12 month lookback and a 24 month lookback for compliance and then the company had a further 6 months to adjust the ratio back within that 4 percentage points (30 months). Then the CBA went on to say that if other airlines were added to the JV that it would be in compliance it NW maintained it's 50% annual KLM ratio, not the ratio of the new JV partners. We were only going to maintain our ratio with KLM not the new group.

Fast forward to the JPWACBA where it became a 50/50 with KLM and AF not just against our previous KLM numbers like our CBA language. We get half of the combined KLM and AF numbers, then they added a third airline to their side of the JV and we still retained 50 percent or all the flying while the three of them are dividing up their side of flying into thirds now.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1097221)

As far as mainline upgrades, OMA and TUL are getting some fifi action from ATL in January. I'm ok with that trend!

I hope we have a decent place to stay for 30 hours, because that's what they are.

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1097209)

I know there are a lot of personal preferences and different ideas when it comes to BBQ. I didn't care for Blue's City BBQ's BBQ. But they have a sign up in there that says, "world's best tamales." At the suggestion of the guy I was flying with, I tried those tamales. I think their sign might be right!!! :D

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1097217)

Blue's City is def my favorite with Corky's coming in second- that and the yummy red potatoes. Not a fan of rendevous.

And by the way, your new Avatar is perfect. :)

Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1097218)

Nuts, I'm gonna answer my own question........you need underboob. Jesse?

Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1097254)

Downtown layovers are in our contract to benefit us, not the company. I have seen numerous times over the years where we have waived the downtown requirement for transit time, security, or availability of dining options.

Istanbul and Mumbai are no longer downtown. New York was once extended from 12 to 14 hours for the minimum downtown layover (is it still?). Any number of crummy layovers in the deep south were moved to the suburbs (Holiday Inns on the out lots of shopping malls were the norm in my DC9/MD88 days).

In my experience, it simply takes enough people complaining about a layover to get it changed. The company is happy to do it, since it generally saves them money.

I'm all for staying in the best possible location, wherever it may be. Removing the requirement for a downtown hotel from our contract would be the wrong way to handle the problem, IMO.

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1097271)

If it is 14 hours or longer, I want Manhattan layovers. Don't be such wimps, you gotta love NYC! If you don't like it, don't bid it, and fogetaboutit!

Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1097254)

Downtown layovers are in our contract to benefit us, not the company. I have seen numerous times over the years where we have waived the downtown requirement for transit time, security, or availability of dining options.

Istanbul and Mumbai are no longer downtown. New York was once extended from 12 to 14 hours for the minimum downtown layover (is it still?). Any number of crummy layovers in the deep south were moved to the suburbs (Holiday Inns on the out lots of shopping malls were the norm in my DC9/MD88 days).

In my experience, it simply takes enough people complaining about a layover to get it changed. The company is happy to do it, since it generally saves them money.