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Bucking Bar 12-05-2011 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1096859)
I read Boyd's analysis and he makes some glaring errors. ... So I am not trashing Boyd, but his analysis is superficial and factually incorrect in many facets. How can Delta support a debt load and pension expense that is larger than American's (proportionally the same size) and yet be doing quite well? Is it really debt and pension, or are those just the things you can attack in Chapter 11? Without revenue gains those won't be enough to make American profitable.

Jeez, got me. Must be our outsourcing that saves us every month.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1096866)
Boyd makes a lot of hold predictions that never come true.

Can you link to one? He publishes all over the net.

cni187 12-05-2011 04:03 PM

Downtown Pittsburgh isn't bad, and Columbia has some nice scenery! Thank goodness we're finally back in Springfield and not Hartford!

forgot to bid 12-05-2011 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1097064)
I agree. I've always heard that the downtown thing is for the senior international guys. Domestically, I don't think its that big a deal and, in fact, is oftentimes a pain in the ass. See an NYC layover at the dumpy downtown place when you land at JFK at 5:00 PM on a Friday and have 12 hours. Two hours later, you get to the dumpy downtown hotel.

Our best domestic downtown is BOS.

The NYC one is a pain if you're not doing international and don't have 14+ hours. There are a lot of times a short overnight is so preferable to a long one that is far away and sometimes nowhere near anything.

I just say we should be able to pick which downtowns are required and which ones are not.

But the worst to me are the long and short overnight locations in DAY... the same hotel on the short side and used to be on the long side that we complained about when we were lowly regional pilots staying there.

I mean it's one thing to stay at the Truck Stop Super 8 in Kalamazoo when you're flying a 1900D but when you're flying a 150 seater into a city then that city should certainly be large enough to find a decent SAFE location to overnight.

buzzpat 12-05-2011 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1097090)
Downtown Pittsburgh isn't bad, and Columbia has some nice scenery! Thank goodness we're finally back in Springfield and not Hartford!

Pitt is pretty nice. We don't do Columbia in the -800 but, I agree, Hartford was bad! Especially after a red eye. These days, for us, BOS is great, NYC not so much, MCO is good, TPA blows, CMH is dullsville, DTW is a nice hotel but the location sucks, MSP is good, RDU is okay, etc.

iceman49 12-05-2011 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1097096)
We've got to get rid of the downtown requirement. We should specify which ones must be, like a NYC, BOS, IND, SFO, ORD/MDW but man, we stay at some dumps in dumpy downtowns.

Agreed, "downtown like" would work....the MEM downtown hotel is a dump.

80ktsClamp 12-05-2011 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1097111)
Pitt is pretty nice. We don't do Columbia in the -800 but, I agree, Hartford was bad! Especially after a red eye. These days, for us, BOS is great, NYC not so much, MCO is good, TPA blows, CMH is dullsville, DTW is a nice hotel but the location sucks, MSP is good, RDU is okay, etc.

DTW is a nice location! Good places to eat, good places to drink, really nice running around the area. Spending a month in bus school in MSP was fantastic. I had such a nice time staying there.

TPA blows horribly... I cannot believe we stay in that area.

BlueMoon 12-05-2011 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1097121)
DTW is a nice location! Good places to eat, good places to drink, really nice running around the area. Spending a month in bus school in MSP was fantastic. I had such a nice time staying there.

TPA blows horribly... I cannot believe we stay in that area.

If you still stay where I think you stay in the D, there are a few airlines that stay there and agree it is a pretty decent location for an overnight. A couple friends and I frequent a bar that is really close and in between checking out the wait staff, drinking beer, and watching sports we play pick out the flight crews.

You don't want to be in downtown Detroit anyway, it is pretty dead when there isn't a concert or a sporting event. Plus the only decent place down there to stay is Greek Town.

acl65pilot 12-05-2011 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1097114)
Agreed, "downtown like" would work....the MEM downtown hotel is a dump.

What would be "downtown like" in NYC? ISP?

Professor 12-05-2011 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1097132)

What would be "downtown like" in NYC? ISP?

Brooklyn Bridge Marriott in Brooklyn Heights.

Far more accessible than a drive to Grand Central and its on every major subway line and multiple intl airlines layover there.

Jesse 12-05-2011 05:18 PM

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