Assuming you're serious, log onto Fidelity and do it yourself, or call them. ALPA has the number if you don't.

That is the point, this is another way to look at it. It gives a good illustration to where the money goes. It also shows you who has the power at National. Surprise, surprise. :eek:

You probably, like most modeling agencies, don't need any experience. So just put an ad in the paper and go with the flow.

I think the APCF L&G Chairman would like you to report back at the next APCF MEC meeting with pictures of your new venture.

Good post.

How about the chairman feel beholden to the pilots such that he knows he can be voted out if they don't approve? For better or for worse, the union does belong to the pilots, right?

BTW, conflict is not a bad thing. After all, would you be okay if the constitution was changed so that you could only elect your U.S. House of Representative member? What kind of voice do you feel you'd have with that kind of system?

The leader of the group should be directly accountable to the pilots, not just the reps.

I don't want to elect both local and chairman because everyone should have a voice in their own base/group interests in their reps but everyone should have a clear voice in their overall union.

I don't want to elect a King. And I sure as heck don't want someone electing one for me either.

If you're self directed swap to gold and watch it go off....But you may have missed the boat. I'm up 25% in 3 weeks....just sold off the profits and waiting to see if it climbs again after the Aug 2nd push. Fingers crossed!!

Baja.

Bar;
Great recap of yesterday. One thing that the MEC did was emphasize that the data presented is there so that you can form an opinion, and not meant to lead you to a position. It should be stated in the publication, but it is good that they are getting it out there.

There are negotiations in progress, and since they are in progress, they could not detail what they were. The NC Chair did state that if they were gripes of yours, they are probably working on them.

DPA was openly discussed, and opinions given. Questioning from the 20 or so pilots present was direct and the responses were honest accounts of how the people answering them felt, and what we needed to do to get to a place of unity. They also emphasized that most DPA pilots are ALPA pilots and all are Delta pilots, and we all want the same thing.

On thing that most need to hear came from Tim. He does not see ALPA or DALPA as perfect, and that is why he has been doing ALPA work since 1998. Same can be said for most involved.

The stressed that they need to hear from every pilot, and want constant input to the Reps and to the Admin.

As for Bar's comment about position on scope, hearing Tim's words, made a lot of sense, because there are always going to be pilots that make an issue of a statement that the Admin makes. Lets just hope that the position surfaces one the pilot survey is closed and the data is compiled.

They want the pilots to hold everyone doing ALPA work feet to the fire. Keep em accountable, and working for you.

I bought companies that print paper, since the US government will be doing more of that either way. :D

I bought into a computer that makes companies... or was it a company that makes computers... either way it's a winner and too complicated for you to understand. All I can say, GO TANDY!!

Alga,

If one does not agree with the direction of the MEC, what recourse do they have but to recall their own rep? What if the rep is doing what they want but is out numbered? Then what recourse is left?

You are without a voice in that case.

Btw
Alga=Alfa when iPhone auto correct is on. Sick of arguing with the phone.

So then what you are saying is that those that commute choose to do so, because you live in Hooterville, a base which Delta will only lose if there is a liquidation of the company. Got it. You have no credibility in this issue and should endeavor harder to keep you pie hole shut when it comes up.

rotflmao :d