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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1030567)
That's a good attempt at rebuttal but the analogy fails because you can take your seniority and fly out of SEA, CVG or MEM if you wish.
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The GDP reports today tell the story. Delta's planning for lowered economic estimates, conserving cash and paying down debt. That's good for us, since the $400,000,000.00 that would have gone to debt service is now staying on the bottom line and contributing to profitability.
Delta's only going to buy what it needs and it will not be for growth, not until there is some market to grow into. It looks to me like the RFP will be scaled back and focus more on 757 replacements, because they have to. The market is pricing our stock based on what they think is going to happen to our customer base. As far as action on the ALPA front, that we know about, much will hinge on the results of the upcoming pilot survey. Our Chairman seems to want to facilitate the will of the pilots. IMHO, that means the real action will be here, on this board. It also means we need to strive to be very rational and mature when we participate in the upcoming pilot contract survey. If the consensus view is ridiculous, we could find ourselves in an endless contract struggle (like American). Right now, we are at the top of the heap for airlines in our position (debt, fleet age, market). Other airlines have used our JPWA to pattern up to near our levels, but no one has passed us allowing us to use them as a justification for higher rates. (getting AirTran up to SWA helps, but SWA is a better financial position than we are and has fewer risks in the domestic market). We need United to do well, we need American to do well and we need US Air to fix their mess (probably hopeless from a labor standpoint). My crystal ball says anything "exciting" is not going to be good. There are near universal denial from our MEC that 100 seat flying is up for grabs, but they also steadfastly refuse to put that position in writing (particularly prior to the contract survey). If given the choice between stagnation and crisis, I'll take stagnation. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1030583)
The GDP reports today tell the story. Delta's planning for lowered economic estimates, conserving cash and paying down debt. That's good for us, since the $400,000,000.00 that would have gone to debt service is now staying on the bottom line and contributing to profitability.
Delta's only going to buy what they need and it will not be for growth, not until there is some market to grow into. It looks to me like the RFP will be scaled back and focus more on 757 replacements, because they have to. The market is pricing our stock based on what they think is going to happen to our customer base. As far as action on the ALPA front, that we know about, much will hinge on the results of the upcoming pilot survey. Our Chairman seems to want to facilitate the will of the pilots. IMHO, that means the real action will be here, on this board. It also means we need to strive to be very rational and mature when we participate in the upcoming pilot contract survey. If the consensus view is ridiculous, we could find ourselves in an endless contract struggle (like American). |
Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
(Post 1030571)
Sometimes it's hard to admit it, but yes, there are people who are smarter and have more information than the average line pilot. I want a rep who has full disclosure (via non-disclosure agreements) and the info on the table to make the right decision. I don't want 64 year old Joe Smoe who wants his A fund back picking the next MEC chair.
Do you have any idea how scary this kind of statement is? Your credibilikty is now a complete ZERO. Just like the troll.... |
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 1030577)
No I can't. Then I'd have to commute, and you don't even want to get me started on that...:D
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1030590)
Oh please do. Let's hear the wisdom of one that does not CHOOSE to commute. Tell us all oh exalted one.
I would HAVE to commute. I couldn't actually move to any of those cities because my favorite Mexican restaurant is right across the street from my house here in ATL. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1030590)
Oh please do. Let's hear the wisdom of one that does not CHOOSE to commute. Tell us all oh exalted one.
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 1030527)
If DPA wins, I plan to launch a union replacement drive to form an ATL union. We compete with SEA, CVG, MEM for the same jobs, and I'm tired of them taking my flying.
Exact same analogy goes for my ATL base. You can't have one union representing pilots from all the different bases -- can't be done. Yet DPA would represent all of them. Not right. Yeah, that's working so well at APA isn't it? The guy who pandered the most got the most votes. Good plan. Analogy time? Yes. Two football teams are playing each other in a game, the current ALPA system has 1 man as head coach of both teams. Now people question the conflict of interest. The rebuttal? Well if you have a problem with that then how can all of the players on the same team be coached by 1 guy?? You'd have to have coaches for each player. Well they do. There is a DC, OC, Quarterbacks coach, wide reciever coach, special team coach and so on. But they're all on the same team and they report to 1 coach. Who in the end shouldn't also be coaching or looking out for the financial interests of the other team.... or as I said earlier, that head coach can't serve two masters. He can't be concerned about both teams. If DALPA wanted to separate from ALPA and let me vote for the MEC Chair I'd support DALPA. |
Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
(Post 1030571)
Was SWA's pay and work rules as high or strong as our's were back in C2K?
Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
(Post 1030571)
FTB: And by the premise of your response, I take it you think ALPA National can serve all of those airline pilots even when they compete for the same jobs?
News flash, they currently do |
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 1030577)
No I can't. Then I'd have to commute, and you don't even want to get me started on that...:D
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