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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1030437)
FTB you're busted. Get back to the 4th floor so Alfa can suck up to you! Stat!:eek:
But I'm confused, am I a Delta management stooge or a Jetblue management stooge? And why would Delta ever have a problem with ALPA? Today, November 17th, 2010, a Delta Air Lines management representative from the Detroit Chief Pilots Office called interim DPA President Tim Caplinger and requested he cease and desist all organizing efforts in all Flight Operations controlled areas around the Delta system. The representative defined Flight Operations areas as any area that Flight Operations controls including pilot bag rooms, lounges, computer areas and even the hallways and niches connecting those areas. To date, Delta Pilots Association has been very considerate of Flight Operations and has not sought to disturb daily operations in any way. Our organizing efforts have been simply handing out business cards and posting temporary 8.5"x11" paper signs identifying our presence. These signs were taken down as the representative left the area. It is important to note that solicitations for other organizations were allowed in these areas and we were set up next to those solicitations already allowed by the company. This conflict of policy is being investigated by our legal team. This event marks the second time this month DPA has experienced interference in our organizing efforts. Atlanta based pilots were shut down this last Sunday by a representative of the Atlanta Chief Pilots office requiring the DPA member to remove the sign attached to his rollerbag handle. As in all cases, the DPA representative respectfully complied immediately with the request and terminated all activity. Photos were obtained and the details were reported for use in potential National Mediation Board or Federal litigation. The DPA membership will always maintain professional bearing and will work with Delta management to obtain reasonable organizing conditions. It has always been the desire of DPA to keep our campaign out of the public eyes, especially as we approach the holiday travel season. The current position Delta management is taking is literally forcing the DPA campaign out into the concourse amongst our valued passengers. Please watch the effect pilot campaigning had on USAirways passengers on Tuesday at Washington, D.C.'s Reagan National Airport. http://www.tbd.com/articles/2010/11/...ons-32272.html While DPA believes Delta management's request for DPA to cease all organizing efforts is flawed, we will comply with the request while legal arguments are prepared. We will also continue to campaign in other venues and in new areas like public concourses in local airports. Appropriate permits will be obtained and we will present ourselves professionally to the travelling public. |
Originally Posted by Reroute
(Post 1030458)
So captains should have one union and F/O another. Old pilot one union and young pilots another. Because of the conflict of interests.
A Captain, First Officer, old pilot, young pilot, senior pilot or junior pilot are all Delta pilots. No? Were we not all hired by Delta? Just out of curiosity, are you currently employed with Delta and ASA and Comair and Pinnacle and Mesaba and Alaska and hopefully soon, Republic Airways? And by the premise of your response, I take it you think ALPA National can serve all of those airline pilots even when they compete for the same jobs?
Originally Posted by Reroute
(Post 1030458)
Or perhaps we can see ourselves not as tribes, but as members of a profession working together and pooling our resources to protect our common interests,
DCI wants as much of those jobs as they can get. Delta pilots want to have all of the jobs associated with that flying. ALPA represents all of them. There's no conflict of interest when it comes to who gets to do Delta flying, right? http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1311920669 Hypothetical to Reroute and Alfa, would you support ending DCI and Alaska flying if Delta wanted to end DCI and Alaska flying? Would ALPA National give it a green light?
Originally Posted by Reroute
(Post 1030458)
but yet giving each bargaining unit the autonomy to elect their own reps, who elect their own officers and negotiators, to set their own negotiating priorities and then evaluate each contract and if it satisfies their pilots priorities, ratify their own agreements. Hmmmm. Maybe that's the ticket.
If its the ticket, let me ask something, is our pay as high as SWA's or scope as strong as SWA's today and will it be in 2014? |
Originally Posted by Reroute
(Post 1030461)
Wait a minute!!! Wait just one minute!
Are you trying to tell me that 83.3% of operating income is spent on DAL,FDX,UAL and CAL? According to your link only 4% is spent on the tier B carriers? That just can't be! Why Carl and the DPA shills keep telling us our dues money goes to the regionals. Sorry, FTB, your link just has to be wrong, because the DPA would never mislead us. And they put this out. Don't know if it's true or not. You have the numbers. You can post it if you want. Just make sure you include the FPL stuff too. :D http://www.delta-pilots.org/storage/...=1293504366172 Now, Jetblue says: 1. The big 4 MEC's get $13.20 of pilot wage dues sent to Herndon while the other MECs only get $2.47. They didn't mention how much of the pilot pay sent to Herndon is from the big 4 and all others. Is it 5.3 x as much? Or in another way, if their other numbers are right, does the big 4 provide 81 million to Herndon and all others provides 18 million a year? I believe there were some numbers once alluding to the "others" get something like $1.20 of every $1 they give and I guess the "big 4" get less than a $1 for every $1 they spent. Is that true? 2. How often do the other MECs dip into the SMRA? They don't show that here. |
Originally Posted by Jesse
(Post 1030486)
Took me a while to get back to you on this one FTB. I was on a four day. Got another short call tomorrow, but shouldn't get anything thrown my way with 69.2 hours for the month now. Envy your seniority...someday I'll have a low RAW score like that.:D
Those prayers were from me and the preacher at the airport chapel. We need to pray for him now. Last I saw he was getting tazered by airport police for talking to an ATL 88 B. It's sad. |
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150
(Post 1030415)
So you guys that have been around the block a few times, I have a question. Today I received a call for a Gslip of show immediately we are holding the plane for you type. Didn't have anything to do so I said yes and grabbed a few things and headed to the airport. As I was walking in they call and say its CNX'd and that I have to stay in base (I live there so no prob) and I'm on call for the next 6 hours for 23K?
This was originally an off day. So this Gslip can be converted to a RSV assignement even for a REG line holder? Doesn't matter I guess they never called, but wondering If this makes a difference in my pay. If it helps it says 23K and a G like a usual Gslip on the next 2 days of my schedule? :confused: Was the flight CNX or was it reassigned? if CNX why? If they put you on 23K, I'm thinking that you should receive the full GS trip credit. Not sure as to the legality of being able to place you on 23K. |
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1030496)
weak.
A captain, first officer, old pilot, young pilot, senior pilot or junior pilot are all delta pilots. No? Were we not all hired by delta? Just out of curiosity, are you currently employed with delta and asa and comair and pinnacle and mesaba and alaska and hopefully soon, republic airways? And by the premise of your response, i take it you think alpa national can serve all of those airline pilots even when they compete for the same jobs? Delta has x amount of flights to perform. Dci wants as much of those jobs as they can get. Delta pilots want to have all of the jobs associated with that flying. Alpa represents all of them. There's no conflict of interest when it comes to who gets to do delta flying, right? http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1311920669 hypothetical to reroute and alfa, would you support ending dci and alaska flying if delta wanted to end dci and alaska flying? Would alpa national give it a green light? ...and to elect our own mec chairman so that change can be affected with far less roadblocks than today, yes? Would dalpa accept a resolution for direct election of the mec chairman by a majority pilot vote say every 2 years? Is there any reason why dalpa would not support such a simple and justifiable change to the current structure? If its the ticket, let me ask something, is our pay as high as swa's or scope as strong as swa's today and will it be in 2014? |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1030496)
Just out of curiosity, are you currently employed with Delta and ASA and Comair and Pinnacle and Mesaba and Alaska and hopefully soon, Republic Airways?
And by the premise of your response, I take it you think ALPA National can serve all of those airline pilots even when they compete for the same jobs?
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1030496)
Delta has X amount of flights to perform.
DCI wants as much of those jobs as they can get. Delta pilots want to have all of the jobs associated with that flying. ALPA represents all of them. There's no conflict of interest when it comes to who gets to do Delta flying, right?
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1030496)
...and to elect our own MEC Chairman so that change can be affected with far less roadblocks than today, yes? Would DALPA accept a resolution for direct election of the MEC Chairman by a majority pilot vote say every 2 years? Is there any reason why DALPA would not support such a simple and justifiable change to the current structure?
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
(Post 1030519)
Did you still receive full GS trip credit?
Was the flight CNX or was it reassigned? if CNX why? If they put you on 23K, I'm thinking that you should receive the full GS trip credit. Not sure as to the legality of being able to place you on 23K. You get single pay for the cnx trip. I had the same deal this week. I believe 23K has you on the hook for 6 hours from scheduled show time, with restrictions on when they must block you back in. They never called me in the window. Not bad pay for packing a bag and driving to the airport. |
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