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Shipsets are great so far, anyone think this will be in the cards for us anytime soon?

I would love to play angry birds while on short final!

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Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1005024)

Angry birds is sooo last week. Now its PLANTS VS ZOMBIES!!!!

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Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 1005027)

Angry birds is sooo last week. Now its PLANTS VS ZOMBIES!!!!

I actually enjoy playing Cut the Rope on the interactive wall mural across from the pilot lounge in ATL.
Show me where in the FOM it says not to do that.

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Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1005021)

I've been hearing next week for a while now, but I am unsure as to which specific week it applied to. Could have been next week being the predecessor to the week in which the next AE will be out, or as in next week being the week that the AE will be out, or furthermore as in next week being the week in which the following week will be the week that an AE will be published depending on the information received from the following week.
Not sure if that helps any.

This came from a certain Chief LCA with the initials CF.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1005020)

We might even still have L1011 sims. I know we have two MD11 sims still installed. We use them for contract training. I think they are gone now but we kept several 727 sims for years after the aircraft were gone.

We have room in the Delta Heritage Museum. If the L1011 and 727 sims are nearly worthless, why not coordinate a drive here on APC to preserve them? Flight decks are always popular with the kiddos and adults alike. The L1011 in particular is worthy with all of the first that airplane established for Delta Air Lines.

A 747 Sim would be the crown jewel, but it has to be big, expensive to move a long distance, and there's probably still a market for it.

When it comes to moving sims, I can say for sure that they don't like getting hit by a car. :D Happened to a E120 sim I was using, it was the victim of a hit and run on it's move.

How long does it take to move a sim and get it back up, certified and actively training?

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1005020)

How many of the current NATCO instructors already commute? I have heard its more then half. Many come from Florida I am also told. I think they will find plenty who choose to switch to Atlanta.
As far as Bays many of the Bays in Atlanta have sims in place that are not used by Delta. There is also another sim facility Delta has used in the past for overflow at Greenbriar. We might even still have L1011 sims. I know we have two MD11 sims still installed. We use them for contract training. I think they are gone now but we kept several 727 sims for years after the aircraft were gone. They wont have a Bay problem and they will retain more instructors then you think.
Delta is a airline still mired in debt and other financial issues. They have to cut every cost if they intend to survive in the new world of airlines. When they get it sorted out CAL/UAL will be a powerhouse. SWA is going to adapt and do great in Atlanta. If there is money to be wasted I want it spent on the pilot contract not other items.

Ed Bastian, I am so glad you post here too.:eek:

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Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1004953)

So in a year after they have moved NATCO I wonder how much we will be paying to keep up the NATCO building and the old headquarters building because nobody will buy them. I don't think MSP is a hot spot when it comes to business so I'm thinking we'll pay to move all the stuff then still have to pay for the buildings. Maybe they already have them sold, but I doubt it.

We could move the MD11 sim up there and still rent it out to FedEx, maybe?

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Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1004971)

So a lot of info is coming out about a major accident in which the nuances of the A320/330 play a major role. Great time for DL to make a move that will likely deplete their instructor knowledge base on those airframes, eh? :rolleyes:

The A320/330 airspeed anomaly issues are maintenance/engineering to figure out... with the help of the NTSB and every OEM who touched it.

But as far as pilots, seems to me in the QF and NWA case it was basic airmanship that dealt with the ASI issues that would be no different than the 777s issues or any of the other airplanes.

Basically, if someone said that all of the instructors have this gouge from the line pilots that says touch that button, then that one, turn that knob 4 times left and 3 times right and hit the master caution light three times in two seconds and that solves all problems, then that's one thing.

But honestly some of my best instructors and even checkrides have been done with IPs with 0 time in type, sometimes 0 time at Delta or Part 121 too. My last checkride was a former Eastern pilot who I'm not sure ever flew here, commutes too, I'd love to be as sharp as he was at his young age.

I value what you learn from an SLI and I think we should have more of them or at least even non-SLI but simple line pilots early on in training to sit in the FTDs to assist pilots is a good thing. A mentoring program really. But training is to be a controlled environment that once mastered then the real world life on the line can be introduced and its far less of a difference these days between the schoolhouses and real world then when I started.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1005013)

I believe JetBlue is defined as a Major airline. They operate 165 aircraft.

Yes, and so is Delta.

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1005013)

If thats not a major what is?

I never said anything about JetBlue being a major or not. Next time, try reading for comprehension. I know you can keep up if you try! :D

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Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 1004853)

Re: NATCO Closing

I have to say I don't see how 8 bays is going to be enough.

A320 - 5 sims
A330 - 2 sims
B747 - 2 sims
B757 - 3 sims (I think)

and that is just the full flight sims, doesn't include FMS or PTTs or the sims used to train other airlines.

The real kicker is that management is STILL stuck on not offering hotel rooms and PS passes to/from the schoolhouse for instructors that don't live where the Training Center is located. If they did that they might not lose so much experience from the instructor corps.

I suppose the FAA will just look the other way and not consider it a safety issue during the "transition" if most of the instructors decide not to move to ATL and not to instruct (at leaston the 747 and Airbii)

It will be even more fun to watch the training backlog. Some sims don't react well to being moved.

There are 12 bays in ATL that will be available. 8 currently are open and 4 more are occupied by a 732 sim, 2 MD11 sims and 1 L1011 sims.

Those sims are housed in 3 buildings (OC1 oldest, OC2 next to it and home of the 4th floor, OC3 across the street and new with newest sims) and "Delta Training Center" with the FTDs. As far as the CAPT type FTDs there are 29 rooms upstairs of which 16 or 17 could be made vacant.

The level 2 FTDs downstairs are a different matter. There are 3 spots down there where stuff could be moved out and new ones put in but there just rooms not really bays so it's not like other office and classrooms couldn't be reallocated.

Now I say all of this not to say "HEY, IT'S BETTER THAN NATCO DOWN HERE!" Because frankly I only heard great things about NATCO but there is room.

What I'd like to see is pilot new hire classroom and the OC1, 2 and Training Building refurbished and improved. Especially the new hire room, BB needs to be given a better more professional looking classroom to indoctrinate our new hires, just saying, he and they deserve it. Delta has a nice facility, just needs some love.