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Denny Crane 06-07-2011 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 1004953)
So in a year after they have moved NATCO I wonder how much we will be paying to keep up the NATCO building and the old headquarters building because nobody will buy them. I don't think MSP is a hot spot when it comes to business so I'm thinking we'll pay to move all the stuff then still have to pay for the buildings. Maybe they already have them sold, but I doubt it.

As Ed said, they have quite a few (at least 21) Fortune 500 companies based there. They include alot of names you are familiar with such as United Health Group (DOH!), Target, 3M, General Mills, and Bestbuy. I was surpised when I heard it too.

Denny

JungleBus 06-07-2011 09:33 PM

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TANSTAAFL 06-07-2011 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1004971)
So a lot of info is coming out about a major accident in which the nuances of the A320/330 play a major role. Great time for DL to make a move that will likely deplete their instructor knowledge base on those airframes, eh? :rolleyes:

A) They can offer PS and Hotels if they don't get enough DGS and IP's to take a job in ATL

B) There are a lot of pilots on those aircraft (and the 744) that do live closer to ATL than they do DTW or MSP.

Nosmo King 06-07-2011 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1004971)
So a lot of info is coming out about a major accident in which the nuances of the A320/330 play a major role. Great time for DL to make a move that will likely deplete their instructor knowledge base on those airframes, eh? :rolleyes:

Could fix that by offering hotel, per diem and PS passes to/from ATL for instructors, just like ... a previous airline. My last checkride was from a retired captain working for DGS. He lives in MSP and doesn't really need the job. Don't think he will be paying for hotels so he can work for DGS in ATL.

Nosmo King 06-07-2011 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 1004981)
A) They can offer PS and Hotels if they don't get enough DGS and IP's to take a job in ATL

B) There are a lot of pilots on those aircraft (and the 744) that do live closer to ATL than they do DTW or MSP.

If they offer it to ANY seniority list IPs, then it should be offered to ALL seniority list IPs. As PG is fond of saying, we can't just negotiate for a few select individuals. Oh wait, unless the company gives it out for free like retired 777 captains coming back to work after lump summing out...

I think there is a little leverage here to get this back if ppl decide they won't instruct and have to pay their own way.

P.S. I am NOT an instructor.

JungleBus 06-07-2011 11:17 PM

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tsquare 06-07-2011 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 1004853)
The real kicker is that management is STILL stuck on not offering hotel rooms and PS passes to/from the schoolhouse for instructors that don't live where the Training Center is located. If they did that they might not lose so much experience from the instructor corps.

I suppose the FAA will just look the other way and not consider it a safety issue during the "transition" if most of the instructors decide not to move to ATL and not to instruct (at leaston the 747 and Airbii)

YGTBKM.... tell me that this is TIC. It's not like any of these airplanes require any special knowledge to teach in a box.. or that they are even all that rare.. There are plenty of people that can do that job.

tsquare 06-07-2011 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 1004982)
Could fix that by offering hotel, per diem and PS passes to/from ATL for instructors, just like ... a previous airline. My last checkride was from a retired captain working for DGS. He lives in MSP and doesn't really need the job. Don't think he will be paying for hotels so he can work for DGS in ATL.

Fine.. he retired. If he doesn't want the job, he can go fishing or practice his Walmart greetings. I like corporate knowledge as much as the next guy, but I don't want my union negotiating a benefit for non members. They want hotel rooms and such, it's their problem.

scambo1 06-08-2011 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1004988)
Fine.. he retired. If he doesn't want the job, he can go fishing or practice his Walmart greetings. I like corporate knowledge as much as the next guy, but I don't want my union negotiating a benefit for non members. They want hotel rooms and such, it's their problem.


T,

Thanks for saying in 3 sentances what needed to be said.

TANSTAAFL 06-08-2011 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 1004985)
If they offer it to ANY seniority list IPs, then it should be offered to ALL seniority list IPs. As PG is fond of saying, we can't just negotiate for a few select individuals. Oh wait, unless the company gives it out for free like retired 777 captains coming back to work after lump summing out...

I think there is a little leverage here to get this back if ppl decide they won't instruct and have to pay their own way.

P.S. I am NOT an instructor.

Should have clarified - should be for ALL SLI's. I want the best experienced IP's on the aircraft where ever they live - ditto all the fleets. And if they were ALL SLI we would create more pilot jobs and not have to worry about non-members.

We PS and hotel hundred of pilots a week to training - why not SLI's?


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