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1234 06-08-2011 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1005049)

But honestly some of my best instructors and even checkrides have been done with IPs with 0 time in type, sometimes 0 time at Delta or Part 121 too. My last checkride was a former Eastern pilot who I'm not sure ever flew here, commutes too, I'd love to be as sharp as he was at his young age.

I value what you learn from an SLI and I think we should have more of them or at least even non-SLI but simple line pilots early on in training to sit in the FTDs to assist pilots is a good thing. A mentoring program really. But training is to be a controlled environment that once mastered then the real world life on the line can be introduced and its far less of a difference these days between the schoolhouses and real world then when I started.

I agree that you don't need time in type to be a good instructor, but I really think that an instructor needs to have the experience to teach pilots at our level (ones that have a lot of experience and had those life experiences of "oh my, I am not ever going to do that again....that was stupid"). It is the instructors that have 1,000 hrs total time and think that they are God's gift to aviation that I have a problem with. We have all been there and grown through that phase in life. We (all the pilots at DAL) have been through the training/checking gauntlet enough times to make plenty of mistakes. It is the seasoned "pilot" that makes a good instructor and evaluator, at least that is what I think. Now, I will say that I think Delta has been doing a good job of hiring only those pilots that actually do have the life experiences. There are many DGS instructors that add a great amount of wealth from with varied backgrounds. Personally, yeah, I would like to have all SLI instructors because it would require more pilots on the seniority list, however, I don't see it happening and think that no matter what happens, DAL will continue to produce quality trained pilots flying millions of passengers each day.

johnso29 06-08-2011 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1005076)
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The issue was first raised at 7:03pm CDT on June 1 in the DPA thread. The thread was almost immediately moved after that. The ALPA/JetBlue thread was only moved within the past 12 hours. Today's date is June 8. Why did the "process of moving both threads" take almost a full week longer for ALPA/JetBlue?

Well if we are going to play the 'time' game then the ALPA/JetBlue thread should be in the Majors forum A LOT longer. This is of course based on the amount of time the DPA thread was in the Majors thread. C'mon man. Let it go.

forgot to bid 06-08-2011 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 1005082)
I agree that you don't need time in type to be a good instructor, but I really think that an instructor needs to have the experience to teach pilots at our level (ones that have a lot of experience and had those life experiences of "oh my, I am not ever going to do that again....that was stupid"). It is the instructors that have 1,000 hrs total time and think that they are God's gift to aviation that I have a problem with. We have all been there and grown through that phase in life. We (all the pilots at DAL) have been through the training/checking gauntlet enough times to make plenty of mistakes. It is the seasoned "pilot" that makes a good instructor and evaluator, at least that is what I think. Now, I will say that I think Delta has been doing a good job of hiring only those pilots that actually do have the life experiences. There are many DGS instructors that add a great amount of wealth from with varied backgrounds. Personally, yeah, I would like to have all SLI instructors because it would require more pilots on the seniority list, however, I don't see it happening and think that no matter what happens, DAL will continue to produce quality trained pilots flying millions of passengers each day.

Most of the DGS guys I've had were retired DAL Captains, some never flew the 88 for instance but had tons of time at Delta through a wide variety of Boeing aircraft... :D ... just teasing. But seriously, 756, 727, 737, DC9, 777, L1011, all of those types. They're big picture guys and we all know that the gaps get filled in talking to friends on the line.

Whidbey 06-08-2011 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1005066)
They have been saying that has been on for the last month. Lets see if they pull the trigger. If would lead to a ton of displacements in ATL as guys move in.

ACL,

How would growing ATL cause displacements here? Wouldn't it stand to reason that not everyone who is on the 330 and 320 in it's previous base would follow it here, and would bid something else up there (causing displacements in the bases that lost the flying?) Or, does 330 and 320 time coming to ATL mean that there is going to be ER and MD-88 flying moved out of ATL? My initial new guy guess would be that bringing those aircraft to ATL would result in upward movement in other categories as ATL people bid over to the new metal.

Not disagreeing, just admitting I don't know how an aircraft move reverberates through the rest of the system.

Thanks in advance,

Whidbey

forgot to bid 06-08-2011 07:14 AM

I could see MD's on ATL MD88 even without moving flying to MSP. I could really see MDs if the A320 base opens hopefully offset with more A320 slots gained than 88 seats lost.

Hopefully the 330 would mean movement up but I have a feeling there are a lot of ATL folks who would just bid back into ATL and not commute to NYC for instance.

I'll take the 320 and 330 base though, but I think there will be MDs.

mmaviator 06-08-2011 07:21 AM

Not trying to throw mud at Delta and hope this isn't posted already. Anyone know why this happened.

contrails 06-08-2011 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by mmaviator (Post 1005107)
Not trying to throw mud at Delta and hope this isn't posted already. Anyone know why this happened.

Really making a mountain out of a molehill.

Really I think the gist of it is didn't realize they had that contract in place to waive the bag limit.

The check to their unit is probably on the way.

FlighTimeBarbie 06-08-2011 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by mmaviator (Post 1005107)
Not trying to throw mud at Delta and hope this isn't posted already. Anyone know why this happened.

Blog Headline:
Report: How Delta supports the troops…by nickle-and-diming them on bag fees

Michelle Malkin Report: How Delta supports the troops…by nickle-and-diming them on bag fees

http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-e...-bags-1.146040

johnso29 06-08-2011 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 1005114)
Really making a mountain out of a molehill.

Really I think the gist of it is didn't realize they had that contract in place to waive the bag limit.

The check to their unit is probably on the way.

Can the agent even wave the fee? Plus, isn't the contract a max of 3 checked bags when booked in coach?

forgot to bid 06-08-2011 08:15 AM

It's made Drudge in red, Delta charges troops $2800 in bag fees. People wringing their hands but Delta responds well and the first post, at least right now, is a soldier that says its normal to be charged but he's been reimbursed everytime. Called this normal and no big deal.


Normal business. It does get reimbursed. I have deployed many times with upward of 10 pieces of luggage/gear. I have paid over $800 for excess and overweight baggage fees at one time. It is all reimbursable on their vouchers. Nothing out of the ordinary. That is why everyone is issued a government travel card.


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