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Originally Posted by shiznit
(Post 1001780)
See emphasis added!:D
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You know the Republic certificate was started to fly the former US Airways (Midatlantic) 170's with more than 70+seats while avoiding Delta's scope. Without the Republic certificate, these planes would have been flown on the Shuttle America side which flies aircraft for Delta. I'm hearing rumors that Bedford is talking about transferring EMB 190's to the Frontier certificate. This seems to point in the direction that Frontier might be going up for sale. The employees at Republic Holdings laugh at our scope. They have no worries at all about losing any flying from us.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1001645)
May on the current generation of 76 seat jets, but who is to say some crazy manufacturer will not come up with a Next Gen 76 seat jet when they realize that the 100 seat segment will not be sold. The whole notion of fighting for all flying is a must. Sunset the current flying and bring it back in house as the CPA's expire. The protects against the unforeseen.
Again, of this generation. The economics will play out with all current generation aircraft, and our language does not currently protect against subsequent generations in the same seat segment. You could say economics are killing most current generation aircraft, ala 744. Great idea but the trend needs to be reversed so that there is a tangible gain for them, not some chance at a maybe. Memories are short, and everyone is look at the last decade of blood, without realizing the economics behind it. We shall see where we are in a decade. Furthermore, the log jam at the majors needs to be freed for any true progress to be made. Sunset Clauses are a good insurance policy that given current economics, will mirror the companies current plans; aka, low cost to the pilot group. Never. Same me one shame on you, shame me twice shame on me. We get what is coming if we fall for that again. It should be simple, scope is not for sale. Delta pilots need to fly the small jets at market rates to get them back on property. Currently the 100 seat flying and the rates paid will fall along a linear line between the 76 seat jet and the 120 seat jets. The is no pilot benefit currently to off loading that flying to DCI. Of course moving debt is very important, and we as a union need to take the position, that we do not care how DAL structures their debt, rest assured we will be flying it. Our mission is simple, DAL pilots flying DAL and Skyteam passengers, leave the corporate shell games up to the execs. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1001815)
I still don't see it!!!! :o :D
That was more trouble than it was worth, but I'm not doing anything else productive today anyway! |
Actually.... the 170's went to the republic certificate because RAH wanted those 170s on the CHQ certificate but could not put them there because that violated AA's scope clause which doesnt allow jet aircraft over 50 seats to be flown by one of their regional partners regardless if they are flown for AA or not....
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Originally Posted by dragon
(Post 1001808)
What about just saying something simple in Section 1 like:
All Delta passengers will be flown by Delta Pilots. Reminds me of a thermodynamics class in college in which the prof said that you could take one 3 x 5 card into each test with any info, notes, equations, etc that you could fit on the front/back, heck, even sides. Well of course those of us who were "smart" figured we didn't need to really study prior to tests as we would simply write down everything we knew on the card the evening prior. As you can guess, panic quickly set in as about 1/4 of everything needed didn't fit AND our eyes usually hurt as we wrote so small, we couldn't read it anyway. During the the test, you could hear him chuckle as he looked around staring at all the confused souls trying to decipher what we each wrote on our cards, frantically trying to find various formulas. |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 1001835)
The employees at Republic Holdings laugh at our scope. They have no worries at all about losing any flying from us.
We are 3'8" and 85 lbs. of lean mean scope machine. With a hat. http://jasonferruggia.com/wp-content.../Skinnyguy.jpg |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1001842)
They better not laugh at us.
We are 3'8" and 85 lbs. of lean mean scope machine. With a hat. http://jasonferruggia.com/wp-content.../Skinnyguy.jpg |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1001790)
ah, a buddy of mine from Auburn was jumpseating into EWR on another mainline airline, hint, and both pilots were anxious to catch their commutes. So anxious they had everything stowed away and were shooting the 22L ILS mostly from memory.
Right at the last second they got sent around and as they started the climb they requested vectors and the already swamped tower said no, fly the published.......... eh...... kind of hard to memorize climb to 500', turn right, continue to 3000' on 225 heading, fly inbound on the ARD 069 to KILMA and hold. and no i don't believe that airplane had an FMS to display the missed. So I got to learn a lesson at their expense. :D ;) Lesson learned, don't assume Newark has any idea what they are doing. It's Jersey, remember. In my career at Delta 66% of no kidding missed approaches for traffic conflicts have been at Newark. |
Originally Posted by Columbia
(Post 1001844)
Yeah, but packing "heat." :)
(if you look closely you can see the ALPA logo on those panties) |
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