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georgetg 06-01-2011 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1001873)
However, Delta's own economic team might have figured out early what the rest of the economic World seems to be figuring out today. .. that US GDP growth is less than expected. Typically the overall flying for Delta (us and the other 50%) correlates with national GDP pretty well. The eye popping figure is that Bombardier is getting 737NG money for these jets, $65 million for an early order that Bombardier needed desperately. This is around 20 to 25 million more than a E175 and nearly twice the cost of the CRJ super stretch. While this airplane is supposed to have great economics, that's a pile of capital expense.

BB, great analysis.
Thats exactly why we'll never see the C-series at DAL.

Douglas will once again fit the bill...

Cheers
George

hoserpilot 06-01-2011 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1001901)
Well in honor of Bars Canadian optimism about c-series jets being flown for delta, and a slight chance by us! Anyways, Canada's best, excluding Canadian bacon, Shania and Kate:

http://www.chits.info/views/images/g...a_Twain_35.jpg

http://lostpic.files.wordpress.com/2...e-lilly-19.jpg


Hey!!! Don't forget the Canucks. The puck just dropped. 4 games till the Bruins go golfing.....I hope.:)

forgot to bid 06-01-2011 04:36 PM

George is in the choir, the Rev Newk's Fly DC Jets Choir:

http://boeingblogs.com/randy/images/fly_dc_jets_sm.jpg

It's small but growing:


hockeypilot44 06-01-2011 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by HercDriver130 (Post 1001839)
Actually.... the 170's went to the republic certificate because RAH wanted those 170s on the CHQ certificate but could not put them there because that violated AA's scope clause which doesnt allow jet aircraft over 50 seats to be flown by one of their regional partners regardless if they are flown for AA or not....

Actually... the original plan was to have two certificates - Chautauqua and Republic. Bedford could not get the Republic certificate up fast enough so he put United 170's on the Chautauqua operating certificate violating APA's scope. They sued and won a few million per month. Chautauqua then bought Shuttle America (Wexford Holding's owned Shuttle and Chautauqua) for a quick fix to the 170 scope problem. As soon as Shuttle was bought, the 170's were transferred immediately from Chautauqua to Shuttle America. Then Bedford signed a deal with Delta to fly 170's on the Shuttle America certificate. Next Bedford made a deal to buy the Mid Atlantic 170's that were configured to 72 seats. Under Delta's scope these could not be under any operating certificate flying the Delta code so he finished creating the Republic certificate and put them there. This all happened in less than four years. It truly is one airline with one pilot group and one CEO using 4 different operating certificates for the sole purpose of scope dodging.

forgot to bid 06-01-2011 04:56 PM

EVERYBODY STOP!!!!!


The DPA thread has been moved. :eek:

forgot to bid 06-01-2011 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1001919)
Actually... the original plan was to have two certificates - Chautauqua and Republic. Bedford could not get the Republic certificate up fast enough so he put United 170's on the Chautauqua operating certificate violating APA's scope. They sued and won a few million per month. Chautauqua then bought Shuttle America (Wexford Holding's owned Shuttle and Chautauqua) for a quick fix to the 170 scope problem. As soon as Shuttle was bought, the 170's were transferred immediately from Chautauqua to Shuttle America. Then Bedford signed a deal with Delta to fly 170's on the Shuttle America certificate. Next Bedford made a deal to buy the Mid Atlantic 170's that were configured to 72 seats. Under Delta's scope these could not be under any operating certificate flying the Delta code so he finished creating the Republic certificate and put them there. This all happened in less than four years. It truly is one airline with one pilot group and one CEO using 4 different operating certificates for the sole purpose of scope dodging.

absolutely spot on hockey.

DAL 88 Driver 06-01-2011 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1001925)
EVERYBODY STOP!!!!!


The DPA thread has been moved. :eek:

I just noticed that. Kinda hard to justify... after how many months? So, Mods, what substantially changed about that thread that suddenly justified moving it? :confused:

Jabberwock 06-01-2011 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1001901)
Canada's best, excluding Canadian bacon, Shania and Kate:

Don't forget the other Canadian girl:


forgot to bid 06-01-2011 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Jabberwock (Post 1001941)
Don't forget the other Canadian girl:


CUT! Ozzy's in the background... ozzy's in the background...

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com...stinbieber.jpg

FmrFreightDog 06-01-2011 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Jabberwock (Post 1001941)
Don't forget the other Canadian girl:



So, I was at Town Center Mall the other day with my 5 year old son, and we walked past a FYE that was having a big "Bieber Sale" complete with life sized cutouts, ridiculous posters, huge banners, the works.

My boy stopped dead in his tracks, looked at the store, made a man-sized sigh, and said, "Aagh. I hate that guy."

I've never been so proud....


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