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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
(Post 995667)
Indeed. I am opposed to out of base swaps. I believe the update said it requires further study.
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 995657)
Other than critiquing the math, I hope that one of the reasons that you highlighted the out of base swap board idea is that you realize that it is an abomination. We gotta fight this fellas... it is the absolute wrong way to go....
I would love to see some discussion on the subject. FAIL. RUO and and reserve rules need to be changed not limiting pilot flexibility!! |
Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
(Post 995673)
FAIL. RUO and and reserve rules need to be changed not limiting pilot flexibility!!
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Originally Posted by dragon
(Post 995668)
Correct, it's one of five issues to be "under consideration at a later date".
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I agree with Ts on this topic. Example: Pilot lives in Atlanta but commutes to NYC to be a junior line holder and cannot hold same category in Atlanta. With "out of base" swap this junior NYC pilot can now be a junior line holding pilot in ATL screwing more senior pilots than him that can hold the ATL category but are on reserve. In my book, a definite abrogation of seniority.
Denny |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 995685)
what is RUO?
I say should because I frequently finding crew scheduling deviating from this, but then again I'm just going off of the Icrew reserve list, that may not be as up to date. Speaking of which, not that it makes much difference, but if you are activated as a RES pilot on long call with a rotation starting the next day, is there any benefit in not acknowledging it in Icrew. Basically, just wait for crew scheduling to call or am I contractually obligated to acknowledge the trip if seen on Icrew. (I've heard captains tell me to do this) Again, I doubt it makes any difference, just curious. |
Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 995685)
I have had 2 pilots in as many days that have told me that another pilot.. out of the blue... called them and asked them to park a trip on their line. They didn't even know the guy. You don't think that this would be ripe for abuse?
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 995692)
I agree with Ts on this topic. Example: Pilot lives in Atlanta but commutes to NYC to be a junior line holder and cannot hold same category in Atlanta. With "out of base" swap this junior NYC pilot can now be a junior line holding pilot in ATL screwing more senior pilots than him that can hold the ATL category but are on reserve. In my book, a definite abrogation of seniority.
Denny |
As I stated many pages ago, I am senior in category and would be senior in the other bases in my category and I am against out of base swaps. The potential for abuse is definitely there.
Had this exact discussion on my last trip about the current swap system and trip parking being "contractually legal" but "unethical" (senior capt's words, not mine). But if some of y'all want to change this to make it legal, then I guess I will have another way to make my life easier at the expense of junior pilots. For the record, I have never parked a trip or used the swap board to trade a trip. |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 995692)
I agree with Ts on this topic. Example: Pilot lives in Atlanta but commutes to NYC to be a junior line holder and cannot hold same category in Atlanta. With "out of base" swap this junior NYC pilot can now be a junior line holding pilot in ATL screwing more senior pilots than him that can hold the ATL category but are on reserve. In my book, a definite abrogation of seniority.
Denny Carl |
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