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Ferd149 05-11-2011 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Jabberwock (Post 992262)
Darn. I'll outsource you before you can tell anyone.

Anyone know of a good mechanic? For some reason the wrenches around here will not talk to me and I'm tired of changing the oil on my wife's GL450. Oil drips on my head and leaves a stain.

When I saw your new Avatar I just about crapped my pants:D Too funny!!

acl65pilot 05-11-2011 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 992421)
When I saw your new Avatar I just about crapped my pants:D Too funny!!

Me too! I had to enlarge it to see who it way. With the red hair, I was not sure if it was a picture of McGuire. :D

Columbia 05-11-2011 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 992400)
I agree, I am not willing to give up a darn thing for those hats.

Does losing the hat require giving something up?

acl65pilot 05-11-2011 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 992428)
Does losing the hat require giving something up?

My point is that I will not accept a bargaining debit for that hat. They can give it to us, but I am not going to pay to remove it from the uniform.

scambo1 05-11-2011 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 992420)
For all you big-shot, wide-body, moneybag types: What happens when you reach the IRS 401K annual max? Do you get the DC contributions as additional taxable income?


What I think you are asking is: If you contribute up to the IRS 415C limit of $49k/yr what happens after that?

Magically, the contribution stops and it is just included in your paycheck as spendable income...which is taxable...so people who don't want to work get to spend money you send to the government, but I digress...

Just 'cause I feel like posting this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg

Pineapple Guy 05-11-2011 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 992413)
Since you quite obviously didn't read the resolution I'll try and summarize it for you (or you could go read the resolution.)

PMNW pilots hired after September 1, 2007 are not eligible for the NWA Pension Plan, Excess Plan or MP3 Plan. During the merger they were give a modified DC plan increased on an annual basis. In 2012 that DC plan funding will be directly affected by the funding for the NWA Pension Plan even though this group has no financial eligibility for that plan.

The DC plan for all other pilots on the property, including new hires, is 2010-10%, 2011-11%, 2012-12%. The PMNW pilots hired after September 1, 2007 are esssentially getting 3% less in their DC than new hires and get no MP3 and are not eligible for the NWA Pension Plan and Excess Plan.

Maybe alfa can do a better job of explaining this.

Let's hope so, your rationale doesn't make much sense to me. ;)

And I'm not a C20 guy, so no idea where the resolution would be found. But as for the issue, let me try again. ALL of the NWA guys had a DC plan - some were targeted, some were not. ALL of the DAL guys had a DC plan - none were targeted. EVERYONE got a 1% increase in 2010, EVERYONE got another 1% increase in 2011, and EVERYONE gets another 1% increase in 2012. That seems like the ultimate fair deal to me. ALL of the NWA guys were gonna reach parity either during 2012 or at the end of 2012, depending on the DB funding. That seems like the ultimate fair deal to me, at least among the NWA guys. We could argue that DC parity should have been on day 1, but its my understanding your MEC demanded pay parity, and DAL was unwilling to do both. I could be wrong.

Now, a tiny sliver of NWA guys get parity before all of their counterparts. Hey, if that's what you guys want, but if we're now doing side deals for select groups, I'd like to make a few suggestions of my own. I'll contact my rep.



Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 992413)
This was a substitute resolution. The one it replaced was the Council 66 resolution to recall one of the the three existing members. If you prefer that one you can reintroduce it at your next LEC meeting.

Didn't know C20 resolutions replaced C66 resolutions. How's that work? Or are you saying C66 actually passed a recall resolution, and C20 considered it, but then did this instead? Hmmm. Seems if a guy is unqualified, he should be recalled. Diluting an unqualified guy with a 4th guy seems silly, but again, that's just me.

So who was gonna be recalled? And did C66 pass it?



Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 992413)
Again if you read the resolution, the maker wants the gate agents to honor the pilots seniority when assigning seats. Not everyone knows how to check in online, believe it or not, and boarding usually starts prior to the 30 minute point. The resolution said nothing about changing the check-in time for pay.

Then this is even sillier. If the gate agent isn't honoring seniority among employees when assigning seats that's wrong, and should be fixed. But if pilots haven't checked in by 30 minutes early, whose fault is that? Get there 10 minutes earlier and check in. THEN if you don't get assigned seats properly, call your rep.

Ed Harley 05-11-2011 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 992413)
Since you quite obviously didn't read the resolution I'll try and summarize it for you (or you could go read the resolution.)

PMNW pilots hired after September 1, 2007 are not eligible for the NWA Pension Plan, Excess Plan or MP3 Plan. During the merger they were give a modified DC plan increased on an annual basis. In 2012 that DC plan funding will be directly affected by the funding for the NWA Pension Plan even though this group has no financial eligibility for that plan.

The DC plan for all other pilots on the property, including new hires, is 2010-10%, 2011-11%, 2012-12%. The PMNW pilots hired after September 1, 2007 are esssentially getting 3% less in their DC than new hires and get no MP3 and are not eligible for the NWA Pension Plan and Excess Plan.

Maybe alfa can do a better job of explaining this.



This was a substitute resolution. The one it replaced was the Council 66 resolution to recall one of the the three existing members. If you prefer that one you can reintroduce it at your next LEC meeting.



Again if you read the resolution, the maker wants the gate agents to honor the pilots seniority when assigning seats. Not everyone knows how to check in online, believe it or not, and boarding usually starts prior to the 30 minute point. The resolution said nothing about changing the check-in time for pay.



Can't help you with this one.

Thank you for explaining the DC contribution thing to everyone. I find it very frustrating because I'm one of these 200 guys affected and very few pilots know about this. I truly hope this passes.

Pineapple Guy 05-11-2011 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 992437)
Thank you for explaining the DC contribution thing to everyone. I find it very frustrating because I'm one of these 200 guys affected and very few pilots know about this. I truly hope this passes.

Hey Ed, so you get 3% less DC than a DAL new hire?

How many merger equity shares did he get compared to you?

Just curious.

forgot to bid 05-11-2011 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 992271)
Speaking of 747's. How about a 975,000lb RTO?

Emergency testing a Boeing's brakes equals awesome — Autoblog

Not exactly what I envisioned a Boeing 747-800 test pilot to look like:

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1305165423

80ktsClamp 05-11-2011 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 992439)
Hey Ed, so you get 3% less DC than a DAL new hire?

How many merger equity shares did he get compared to you?

Just curious.

Why the pushback on bringing those guys to parity? I don't understand it. Just because it was done that way doesn't make it right.


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