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iceman49 05-11-2011 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 992355)
Some seem to think the whole thing is a power grab, and not about FPL

More details?

Justdoinmyjob 05-11-2011 03:49 PM

Got an email from 66. Seems the resolution about making the hat an optional uniform piece failed 9 to 7.

Really?

80ktsClamp 05-11-2011 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 992380)
Got an email from 66. Seems the resolution about making the hat an optional uniform piece failed 9 to 7.

Really?

There are a lot of other things I'd like to see us spend our time on than hats.

Pineapple Guy 05-11-2011 04:10 PM

Mind if I ask a few questions?


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 992325)
Interesting Council 20 update.

Several resolutions passed.

1) ....
2) Fix the 07/08 NWA retirement fail


What needs to be "fixed"? Under the joint contract, all 12000 of us came to the merger with a certain DC contribution, and all 12000 of us get identical DC increases thru 2012, until ALL North guys get identical additional increases to bring the North guys to parity with the South. So are you saying these 200 or so guys are more equal than others, and get their increase early? Good deal for them, but whose pocket does that ultimately come out of?:confused:


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 992325)
3) Elect a 4th merger committee member (heavily modded from the original)

What's wrong with the 3 we've got? Is it because they happen to be all South guys? What happens if the MEC approves this and then vote for a 4th South guy? Does DTW then pass a resolution to have a FIFTH merger committee member?:confused:


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 992325)
4) ....
5) ....
6) Fix the DH/30 minute check-in thing

What's to fix? Yes, we have to check in a bit earlier than that, if we want to get to the gate 30 minutes early. So we renegotiate the contract so you check in 15 minutes earlier than that, yielding you MAYBE 4.3 more minutes of pay, but only if you're on a credit trip. Is this really worthy of negotiations? For 4.3 minutes.... maybe?


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 992325)
7) Fix the slow webboard software

There was a LEC resolution that deals with some laundry, which I won't post here.

Nu

Fix the webboard? Laundry?:confused:

Wow, to look at these, things must be going pretty well, if these are the issues being raised.

Pineapple Guy 05-11-2011 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsclamp (Post 992381)
there are a lot of other things i'd like to see us spend our time on than hats.

^^^^^^^^^^^^ +1

acl65pilot 05-11-2011 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 992380)
Got an email from 66. Seems the resolution about making the hat an optional uniform piece failed 9 to 7.

Really?


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 992381)
There are a lot of other things I'd like to see us spend our time on than hats.

I agree, I am not willing to give up a darn thing for those hats.

scambo1 05-11-2011 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 992400)
I agree, I am not willing to give up a darn thing for those hats.


I am.

I am willing to give up the jacket.

acl65pilot 05-11-2011 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 992407)
I am.

I am willing to give up the jacket.


Ha! Of course. :D

Nosmo King 05-11-2011 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 992387)
Mind if I ask a few questions?




What needs to be "fixed"? Under the joint contract, all 12000 of us came to the merger with a certain DC contribution, and all 12000 of us get identical DC increases thru 2012, until ALL North guys get identical additional increases to bring the North guys to parity with the South. So are you saying these 200 or so guys are more equal than others, and get their increase early? Good deal for them, but whose pocket does that ultimately come out of?:confused:

Since you quite obviously didn't read the resolution I'll try and summarize it for you (or you could go read the resolution.)

PMNW pilots hired after September 1, 2007 are not eligible for the NWA Pension Plan, Excess Plan or MP3 Plan. During the merger they were give a modified DC plan increased on an annual basis. In 2012 that DC plan funding will be directly affected by the funding for the NWA Pension Plan even though this group has no financial eligibility for that plan.

The DC plan for all other pilots on the property, including new hires, is 2010-10%, 2011-11%, 2012-12%. The PMNW pilots hired after September 1, 2007 are esssentially getting 3% less in their DC than new hires and get no MP3 and are not eligible for the NWA Pension Plan and Excess Plan.

Maybe alfa can do a better job of explaining this.


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 992387)
What's wrong with the 3 we've got? Is it because they happen to be all South guys? What happens if the MEC approves this and then vote for a 4th South guy? Does DTW then pass a resolution to have a FIFTH merger committee member?:confused:

This was a substitute resolution. The one it replaced was the Council 66 resolution to recall one of the the three existing members. If you prefer that one you can reintroduce it at your next LEC meeting.


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 992387)
What's to fix? Yes, we have to check in a bit earlier than that, if we want to get to the gate 30 minutes early. So we renegotiate the contract so you check in 15 minutes earlier than that, yielding you MAYBE 4.3 more minutes of pay, but only if you're on a credit trip. Is this really worthy of negotiations? For 4.3 minutes.... maybe?

Again if you read the resolution, the maker wants the gate agents to honor the pilots seniority when assigning seats. Not everyone knows how to check in online, believe it or not, and boarding usually starts prior to the 30 minute point. The resolution said nothing about changing the check-in time for pay.


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 992387)
Fix the webboard? Laundry?:confused:

Can't help you with this one.

Bluto 05-11-2011 05:19 PM

Contract/401K ?
 
For all you big-shot, wide-body, moneybag types: What happens when you reach the IRS 401K annual max? Do you get the DC contributions as additional taxable income?


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