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1234 05-03-2011 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 988578)
The key is the word "effectively" You said it yourself, they are not working over their vacation.. but more to the point, they are getting paid for their days off, not getting paid to take those days off.


So you are saying that vacation should be "pay and credit" for the month. Right now anybody can fly up to ALV+15 and have their vacation in a month for a paycheck worth around 100 hrs. If we make it pay and credit, then all pilots will be limited to a max of ALV+15.

TOGA LK 05-03-2011 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 988599)
Do you live near Los Angeles or something? You're always so concerned about this Alaska codeshare. ;)

Expect to go down a number on this AE, ATL is on my MD card with 12 flights a day (plus Alaska now).

TOGA LK 05-03-2011 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 988594)
American Airlines launches 10 new routes at LAX; new Shanghai service becomes seventh international route | anna.aero
American Airlines launches 10 new routes at LAX; new Shanghai service becomes seventh international route

The third busiest passenger airport in the US last year, Los Angeles International Airport, reported a 4.5% growth in passenger numbers to 59.1 million in 2010. In recent years, United has been the biggest carrier at the airport, but no single carrier has more than a 20% share of seat capacity. During the last week, American Airlines has taken the significant step of launching 10 new routes from the airport, most of them operated by its subsidiary American Eagle Airlines. As a result, it is now in a clear second place and at least in terms of weekly seat capacity is not far behind United Airlines.

Airline Frequency share Capacity share Routes (Dom/Int)
United Airlines 24.6% 16.8% 55 (47/8)
American Airlines 19.0% 16.3% 42 (35/7)
Southwest 14.4% 14.1% 21 (21/-)
Delta 11.6% 12.2% 29 (22/7)
Alaska Airlines 5.9% 5.4% 20 (10/10)
Source: OAG Max Online for w/c 4 April 2011
Although American and United lead the way, the airline operating the most international routes from LAX is Alaska Airlines, which serves nine destinations in Mexico as well as Vancouver in Canada.

Nine new domestic routes plus Shanghai

The highest-profile new route launch of the week for American was its new daily service to Shanghai in China, a destination already served from LAX by China Eastern Airlines. Until now, all Chinese destinations from LAX were served by Chinese carriers; Beijing (Air China), Guangzhou (China Southern), Shanghai (China Eastern), Hong Kong (Cathay Pacific) and Taipei (China Airlines and EVA Air).

American’s other non-stop international routes from LAX are London Heathrow, San Jose del Cabo (Mexico), San Juan (Puerto Rico*), San Salvador (El Salvador), Tokyo Narita, and Toronto (Canada).

Disappointingly for the airport, none of the airline’s new domestic routes are to destinations not already served by at least one other carrier.

Of the nine domestic routes American is starting from LAX, three are served by just one other airline, three by two airlines, two by three airlines and on the Phoenix route American is joining Delta, Southwest, United and US Airways in competing for passengers. Continental and US Airways compete on just one of these new routes, Delta on three, Southwest on six and United on eight. All of these additional routes will help provide feed for the long-haul flights, in particular to London, Shanghai and Tokyo.

LAX, third largest airport by volume and the worlds largest airline (SOC) has 60 narrow body FO's based there. This is my point. Someone told me 55% of Deltas domestic flying is contract.

acl65pilot 05-03-2011 07:47 AM

New;
ALK and RJET share the a single threat; They both can be used though holding companies to our maneuver us and the limits of our section one. We must effectively stand up and state, that Holding Company shell games are under the umbrella of our PWA. If not, the down side could be very severe.

Amish Pilot 05-03-2011 07:48 AM

Vacation Move-up?
 
Hey Guys,

When do they process vacation move up requests? Also does moving your primary vacation carry more weight than you secondary? Thanks

AP

dragon 05-03-2011 07:59 AM

They process move ups on the 5th (bids close on the 1st). I have been told as well that moving your primary trumps someone moving their secondary (or lower).

From page 7-4:

b. Vacation move-ups will be awarded in seniority order with the following priority:
1) Pilots requesting to change a primary vacation.
2) Pilots requesting to change a secondary vacation.
3) Pilots requesting to change a tertiary vacation.
4) Pilots requesting to change a quaternary vacation.

Scoop 05-03-2011 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 988483)
As one who has spent about half of my time at DAL on reserve, and the other half with a line, our reserve system blows. Its a huge pay cut, little to no control to alleviate that dramatic loss in pay, and constant uncertainty. If a trip is in open time, let the reserve guys pick it up. Its open for a reason. And short call, don't get me started. I don't mind sitting it, because I live in base (or a semblance thereof), but I can imagine what a pain it must be for guys that commute. Finally, if a regular guy and a reserve guy fly the same trip, pay them the same. Its ludicrous that one makes more credit than the other for precisely the same duty. Where did that policy come from?

My next contract priorities: 1) scope, 2) pay, and 3) revamp the reserve system. ASAP.

I'm out....and Bin Laden is still dead!

Buzz,

Our reserve system always had screwy policies. Some would benefit the Pilots some would screw the Pilots. When these all balanced out reserve was not too bad. The problem is, in the post BK environment all the policies that benefit the pilots have been discontinued.

One example of a pro-pilot policy was dropping reserve days. On contract 96 (Not sure when it actually started) if you dropped a reserve day for MIL (I assume straight drops were the same) your pay would be pro-rated 1/30 or 1/31. So you could drop all 18 of your reserve days and still get paid 12/30 or 13/30th of your paycheck without any obligation. When we had stuff like this it was easy to overlook the different duty rigs for reserve and line holders. Now, not so much.

Scoop - OBTW your contract 2012 priorities are spot on! :)

newKnow 05-03-2011 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 988622)
New;
ALK and RJET share the a single threat; They both can be used though holding companies to our maneuver us and the limits of our section one. We must effectively stand up and state, that Holding Company shell games are under the umbrella of our PWA. If not, the down side could be very severe.

acl,


Here why I think Alaska is a bigger threat to us than RJET:

They both share the threat to take our flying.

But, there are no rumors out there that we might merge with RJET.

Let's say in response to increased flying to fly their DL codeshare, Alaska hires a few hundred pilots to add to a 1,300 pilot seniority list, and we later merge with them? A new hire could move up 10-20% in relative seniority fairly quickly on such a small list.

What does that do to our SLI position as Delta pilots? I can't say for sure, but whatever it does, it wouldn't be good for us. Especially, since SLI arbitrators continue to merge seniority list by ratio.

I'm watching what Alaska does and RAH does with equal intensity. But, I can see where Alaska growth has more of a potential to harm us.

See where I'm coming from?

pilotc90a 05-03-2011 08:28 AM

It happened
 

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 988615)
<DISCLAIMER: This is not intended to evolve into a North v. South debate.>

I'm just trying to get my memory straight.

At NWA, does anyone remember Alaska starting a route to one of our hubs (SEA-MSP???) then NWA retaliating by putting a 747-200 on SEA-ANC?

Did that happen, or am I "misremembering" that? :D

We also started ANC-HNL at that same time. It didn't last long as AK pulled out of the SEA-MSP market shortly after is started. I really wish that DAL had more of that "killer Instinct"

TOGA LK 05-03-2011 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 988633)
acl,


Here why I think Alaska is a bigger threat to us than RJET:

They both share the threat to take our flying.

But, there are no rumors out there that we might merge with RJET.

Let's say in response to increased flying to fly their DL codeshare, Alaska hires a few hundred pilots to add to a 1,300 pilot seniority list, and we later merge with them? A new hire could move up 10-20% in relative seniority fairly quickly on such a small list.

What does that do to our SLI position as Delta pilots? I can't say for sure, but whatever it does, it wouldn't be good for us. Especially, since SLI arbitrators continue to merge seniority list by ratio.

I'm watching what Alaska does and RAH does with equal intensity. But, I can see where Alaska growth has more of a potential to harm us.

See where I'm coming from?

Alaska buddy "Hiring 10%/yr for foreseeable future do to retirements."


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