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acl65pilot 09-13-2011 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1053806)
Operated by who?

AeroMExico dumped the the 717, ordered E190's (the IGW version) and outsourced them. Then Delta bought part of AeroMexico and sits on the BOD.

It is senseless and illegal to go to an investor's conference and lie. So, the most likely story is that what we are told is the truth.

Saudi. Who do you think? :rolleyes:

Look where AX was at the time. Click was going under and with good reason. The 190 has to high of a cost for acquisition for mainline. The Regionals could get it, but I do not see that happening. If DALPA does that, which I suspect the reps will not go for it, they are gone. It would be that simple.

forgot to bid 09-13-2011 01:20 PM

I think the best 100 seater would not be a gtf. It'd be swinging a prop. I wish Embraer would straighten the wing on the E190 and throw a 8 bladed prop on it and say here ya go!

Passengers don't like props you say? Well passengers don't like tons of middle seats on a 180 seat airplane that only has a 1L door and is way too narrow for 3x3 seating either but that hasnt stopped us from buying them anyways.

The best 100 seat range jet is the 717. Getting the 717 is like marrying a hot and great girl who has a kid from a previous marriage where her jerk of a husband ran off with the fat girl at the grocery store check out vs marrying a Brasilian or Canadian mail order bride you never met but has promised you everything you could ever want once she arrives- but she is probably a meth addict who is impossible if not dangerous to live with. Good luck with that.

That's my best Colin cowherd single sentence styled analogy. :D

Bucking Bar 09-13-2011 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1053808)
Saudi. Who do you think? :rolleyes:

Look where AX was at the time. Click was going under and with good reason. The 190 has to high of a cost for acquisition for mainline. The Regionals could get it, but I do not see that happening. If DALPA does that, which I suspect the reps will not go for it, they are gone. It would be that simple.

... and I'm still not completely convinced that that is not exactly what happened in the preceding 90 days ... .

Bucking Bar 09-13-2011 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1053809)
... husband ran off with the fat girl at the grocery store check out vs marrying a Brasilian or Canadian mail order bride you never met but has promised you everything you could ever want once she arrives- but she is probably a meth addict who is impossible if not dangerous to live with. Good luck with that.

Anyone know how much is costs to get yourself listed in one of those Canadian books? Fat girls have always been good to me and with the value of my 401K, the US economy and health care costs, maybe that is the answer to the C2012 dilemma. Anyone know where I could find a Maple Leaf to pose with? (have to be a BIG Maple leaf, of course)

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1053808)
Saudi. Who do you think? :rolleyes:

Speaking of Filipino labor ... see who almost won Ms. Universe last night?

acl65pilot 09-13-2011 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1053810)
... and I'm still not completely convinced that that is not exactly what happened in the preceding 90 days ... .

I know you are not. Selling that would have to come to MEMRAT. Unless it gave a pension and total restoration to Capt's as well as 10 weeks of vacation, limos to and from home, PSY for a Capt commuters, five star hotels for the Capt's only, and 10 times pay for gs for Capt's again I doubt it would even come close to passing. :)

Scope is not something this group is willing to sell. That does not mean that the solution or proposal could not be some new and improved way of blending DCI in to mainline with these jets being owned and operated off of the mainline balance sheet with pilots that have and will have mainline numbers operating them. Thinks SKW owns them but DAL pilots fly them. Or Pinnacle for that matter.

acl65pilot 09-13-2011 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1053812)
Anyone know how much is costs to get yourself listed in one of those Canadian books? Fat girls have always been good to me and with the value of my 401K, the US economy and health care costs, maybe that is the answer to the C2012 dilemma. Anyone know where I could find a Maple Leaf to pose with?
Speaking of Filipino labor ... see who almost won Ms. Universe last night?

Nope, I was working on a business plan prospectus for something I am debating purchasing and operating. Plus, you know I do not watch a lot of tv.....:eek:

PilotFrog 09-13-2011 01:50 PM

Nice to see that if we get our debt below $10 bn by 2013 and save $500 mil, and a 50% raise for us would cost how much?

finis72 09-13-2011 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1053513)
Has anyone DH'd into NRT in civilian clothes lately? Any problems doing so?

No problems at all as long as you entered NRT as crew.

gloopy 09-13-2011 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1053708)
In my opinion, no consolidation happens until the slot swap has final approval. As soon as the movers and shakers know that the deal will be approved, another round of consolidation is very likely. It all hinges on the slot swap since LCC will more than likely be involved in any deal that results in further consolidation.

I have my scenarios drawn out, and I suspect DAL will be a player, but not as acquirer of LCC in whole.

I agree with the first part. I think the main reason LCC wants the swap is to pave the way for a merger (or maybe a fragmentation?). But as far as we are concerned, what could we possibly want from them after the slot swap? Maybe a few 330's? A route here and there? But we are pulling down Atlantic flying fast and furiously so how can that be it? We've never seemed to care a whole lot about PHX or LAS beyond our current levels and I'm not seeing much value in anything else they could offer, in whole or in part.

gloopy 09-13-2011 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1053724)
In the past, airlines matched GDP growth.

GDP counts government spending and as such is being slowly decoupled as the once reliable metric it once was.


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