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Hey guys,

I could use some advice. I live in the ATL area, and very junior. Any recommendations on ATL 88b reserve, vs. DTW 320b junior line holding commuter ?

Thanks in advance

DAL 88 Driver

06-08-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1005084)

Well if we are going to play the 'time' game then the ALPA/JetBlue thread should be in the Majors forum A LOT longer. This is of course based on the amount of time the DPA thread was in the Majors thread. C'mon man. Let it go.

No problem. Just wanted to make sure that the point was made to show the inconsistency. I didn't like the way it took just a couple of comments from died in the wool ALPA apologists to get it shut down.

But you're right. There are bigger fish to fry. Like why DALPA is STILL refusing to identify restoration as our goal... and why they have such a good relationship with management and at the same time attack any pilot who points out the lack of objective. :eek:

1234	06-08-2011 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1005087)

Most of the DGS guys I've had were retired DAL Captains, some never flew the 88 for instance but had tons of time at Delta through a wide variety of Boeing aircraft... :D ... just teasing. But seriously, 756, 727, 737, DC9, 777, L1011, all of those types. They're big picture guys and we all know that the gaps get filled in talking to friends on the line.

Yep, I agree with you. It will be nice when we have another manufacturer's airplane on property (Embraer?, Bombardier?), flown by Delta pilots, so that us Airbus types don't have to be the only black sheep of the family. :D

forgot to bid

06-08-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1005140)

Hey guys,

I could use some advice. I live in the ATL area, and very junior. Any recommendations on ATL 88b reserve, vs. DTW 320b junior line holding commuter ?

Thanks in advance

ATL 88 B, ifyou touch a weekend you'll fly. You'll fly if there is swap during the week. SC at least once a stint of 4 or more days.

Bucking Bar

06-08-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mmaviator (Post 1005107)

Not trying to throw mud at Delta and hope this isn't posted already. Anyone know why this happened.

Wouldn't the Army prefer issues over interpretations of policy and getting them fixed be handled discreetly, or has the military become so permissive that soldiers are encouraged to start a media row over consumer complaints? I know we sure see a lot of military enlisted in front of cameras with complaints these days.

(edit ... question was answered above ... soldier has a travel card)

Just re-read the "Social Media Policy" and if a person identified as a employed pilot were to get in front of a camera to complain about something like a hotel's service they'd be in violation.

DAL 88 Driver

06-08-2011 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1005140)

Hey guys,

I could use some advice. I live in the ATL area, and very junior. Any recommendations on ATL 88b reserve, vs. DTW 320b junior line holding commuter ?

Thanks in advance

Never commute to reserve when you have an opportunity to not commute. The pay rate is higher on the 320, but I'll bet you'd come out about the same after adding in expenses for commuting. Save yourself the hassle and sit short call at home!

Edit: Whoops! Misread your post and missed the part about holding a line in DTW. I'd still be inclined to not commute. Out of 22 years flying for the airlines, I've commuted for about half of it. It's certainly a personal choice, but based on my experience I think not commuting is BY FAR the better choice. Sitting reserve at home is not that bad.

1234	06-08-2011 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FedElta (Post 1005140)

Hey guys,

I could use some advice. I live in the ATL area, and very junior. Any recommendations on ATL 88b reserve, vs. DTW 320b junior line holding commuter ?

Thanks in advance

In base on reserve would certainly be my choice. You would most likely still be a very junior line holder in DTW and then what happens when a bunch of pilots senior to you come into DTW and now you have to commute to DTW and be on reserve.

Just my thoughts.

MoonShot

06-08-2011 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 1005150)

+1. You are about my seniority and for me, there wouldn't be enough of a cushion to do that. Take my advice with a grain of salt though, I bid the 7ER in DTW knowing I'd be on reserve (at least until I get displaced).

acl65pilot

06-08-2011 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Whidbey (Post 1005092)

ACL,

How would growing ATL cause displacements here? Wouldn't it stand to reason that not everyone who is on the 330 and 320 in it's previous base would follow it here, and would bid something else up there (causing displacements in the bases that lost the flying?) Or, does 330 and 320 time coming to ATL mean that there is going to be ER and MD-88 flying moved out of ATL? My initial new guy guess would be that bringing those aircraft to ATL would result in upward movement in other categories as ATL people bid over to the new metal.

Not disagreeing, just admitting I don't know how an aircraft move reverberates through the rest of the system.

Thanks in advance,

Whidbey

I know a lot of pilots that want in to ATL that cannot get in on the jet they want. Moving a large WB would allow these guys to VD or MD in to the jets of their choice.

Simply put, 330 moves here, 330 MSP guys MD's down to the ER, senior ER guy VD's to the ER or 765 in ATL where they previously could not have bid in to that position.

acl65pilot

06-08-2011 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 1005156)

Also, Reserve on the ER, or 73N beats the snot out of commuting to a line. Remember in winter the ALV's are 72 and many of the junior guys get 65 hr lines and have a hard time WSing above 70.

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