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Check Essential 06-09-2011 05:35 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1005553)
What are the advantages of these larger "AE" (displacement) bids compared to a monthly, or quarterly, system? It seems like a lot rides on the outcome of these for pilots, crew planning and the accountants. Months are spent tweaking the plan, then fuel, market conditions, or some other factor changes and then it seems everyone starts "we should of ..."

Smaller bids would allow much greater flexibility and certainty. Why do we have our AE system? Was it mostly to avoid seasonal furloughs?

There is nothing stopping management from posting smaller bids under our AE system.
They can have monthly or quarterly AEs if they choose.
They must like the bigger, less frequent bids for some reason.

iceman49 06-09-2011 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1005587)
At NWA, there was a category for reserves and a category for lineholders for each aircraft, seat, and base. If the schedule dropped to the point that the bottom lineholders could not hold a line, they had some options. One being sitting at home until you received a trip for I think 70 hours guaranteed pay. When this happened to me, I ended up flying over 80 hours. Two was sitting straight reserve for 75 hours. I can't remember the third option, but it was probably a blank line with no guarantee and the option to pick up trips out of opentime. The reserves were always reserves. They had no chance of holding a line. Any trips left over after the last lineholder was awarded a trip were dropped into open time.

This is why you'll hear a 744 or 330 captain say he was a lineholder before the merger, but now he's reserve. We had some really senior green book guys in the 744 and 330 reserve captain categories because those were the only openings after the fence dropped. Even though they were senior to the lineholders, they couldn't get into the category.

The systems are different.

Also I remember that on a block holder without a block you had the option of staying home and being paid for 55 or 65 hours without having to be in base...additionally I think you got ps to your base if you were used.

forgot to bid 06-09-2011 05:40 AM

Next thing to bid on, how many surpluses will we have across the system on this AE?

I say surpluses and MDs on this next AE.

iceman49 06-09-2011 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1005531)
My guess is the displacements off the 767/ER will be in ATL. Parking over five and less than 10 this fall.

Think they will be a commensurate displacement of the 88s with the 32 input...76 400s completely gone to NY, but what would I know.

iceman49 06-09-2011 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1005527)
Nosmo,

I think yours is a fair analysis -to a point. Mother D swaps flying around on the fleets pretty regularly, todays chocolate is tomorrow's vanilla.

The 330 is the 777 without the range and it is also the 764 with better cargo capacity.

ATL 330 will do cargo heavy and pax heavy 12 hour runs. That means deep south america, turkey, greece, rome, africa, etc.

It will be somewhat junior on the bottom 8-9000 and somewhat senior on the top end 2500-4000 in the FO seat depending on base fleet size. IMO.

Scambo, the 330 200 can go a long way if we buy the extra weight. With the extra weight we could go from BOM to MSP...full load.

You are right, today's great idea is tomorrow's...what were we thinking.

DeadHead 06-09-2011 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1005575)
I still have a chance imho:

FTB 43
Hoserpilot 37
Buzzpat 173
The Wagman 199
Gloopy $1
Contrails 73
Iaflyer 147

Put me down to take the physical challenge.

Bucking Bar 06-09-2011 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1005575)
I still have a chance imho:

FTB 43
Hoserpilot 37
Buzzpat 173
The Wagman 199
Gloopy $1
Contrails 73
Iaflyer 147

Dude's in for 75

Check Essential 06-09-2011 06:01 AM

While we wait for the bid, I have a confession.

I am deeply in love with Tea Leoni. Don't tell my wife.

http://wallpapers.skins.be/tea-leoni...x768-28843.jpg

LeineLodge 06-09-2011 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1005584)
FTB 43
Leinlodge 44
Phuz 45
Hoserpilot 37
Buzzpat 173
The Wagman 199
Gloopy $1
Contrails 73
Iaflyer 147

That didn't work out so well. Turnabout's fair play I guess

GunshipGuy 06-09-2011 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1005629)
While we wait for the bid, I have a confession.

I am deeply in love with Tea Leoni. Don't tell my wife.

http://wallpapers.skins.be/tea-leoni...x768-28843.jpg

You have impeccable taste. Any movie she is in is better because of her.


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