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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1005720)
If we flew SEA-MAO would you kvetch about it? I get that you only want to fly on Tuesdays...
http://www.avalanchers.com/scripts/i...6609.jpg&d=300 The dengue, malaria, mold borne respiratory afflictions, yellow fever, boredom, food poisoning, lack of air conditioning & internet, tetanus, pollution and chlamydia are not that bad after the rainy season. Sure, some of the diseases have a 50% mortality rate, but you can be a glass half full kind of guy ... you've got a 50% chance of living.Dude's in for the non - Amazon, not that I'm critical of anyone else's choice. |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 1005587)
At NWA, there was a category for reserves and a category for lineholders for each aircraft, seat, and base. If the schedule dropped to the point that the bottom lineholders could not hold a line, they had some options. One being sitting at home until you received a trip for I think 70 hours guaranteed pay. When this happened to me, I ended up flying over 80 hours. Two was sitting straight reserve for 75 hours. I can't remember the third option, but it was probably a blank line with no guarantee and the option to pick up trips out of opentime. The reserves were always reserves. They had no chance of holding a line. Any trips left over after the last lineholder was awarded a trip were dropped into open time.
This is why you'll hear a 744 or 330 captain say he was a lineholder before the merger, but now he's reserve. We had some really senior green book guys in the 744 and 330 reserve captain categories because those were the only openings after the fence dropped. Even though they were senior to the lineholders, they couldn't get into the category. The systems are different. |
Originally Posted by Maddoggin
(Post 1005702)
Off topic but does anyone know where "the approved" parking area is when we non-rev. Is it the GO offices area now. I remember reading it somewhere but can't find a map or any other info on it. And do the buses run every 10 or 15 minutes like CC.
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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 1005528)
Trivia question: What was that live blues bar (closed now) that had about 200 varieties of bottled beer - it was right around the corner from Tommy's Condom (tommy condon's). No, it wasnt myskins.
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Originally Posted by full of luv
(Post 1005333)
As much as everyone says 60 vs 65 is a financial decision, it is much more a psyche and QOL issues. These older pilots have spent some time as FE's FO's and now are enjoying a bounty of unexpected seniority longevity due to the unphased introduction of 60 to 65. Most have kids gone, finances in order and no desire to say they are over the hill and in retirement. Only the younger think it's a financial decision, most have that pretty much figured out by 63.
I ask every one of them why they chose to fly past 65 and none of them has mentioned finances. Its always the "this international stuff is great!" answer. I am getting kinda tired of sitting through multiple line checks on every trip/ :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1005674)
Can you put an approximate number on "ton" ? Figure all the pilots trying to get into Atlanta will bid the 88 to do it? A bid to the 88 would avoid the truly miserable MAO flying that is coming back to the 737's junior ranks.
Atlanta was decimated with the 767-400 move and other 767 cuts, forcing a lot of pilots down to the MD88 and off to New York. If the bid is a net positive for Atlanta, will the numbers be sufficient for those who wish change their domicile? Some of the junior NY crowd was hoping to come back too, but may be blocked by the anticipated MSP exodus / migration. Why is ATL so incredibly popular? Is it really that much better a commute? Also, commutin's a *****. MEM and CVG have question marks about what categories will be there with a healthy assurance there will not be any WBs. NYC is NYC, as in its not BOS where so many NYC crews live and it's very expensive. You go there if you don't mind commuting. That leaves super senior SEA, decimated by Alaska LAX, MSP and ATL. ATL has been super tight, takes a bit more than 3 years just to hold a line on the bottom, albeit kick ass, feeder. Half the 764s were sent to NYC and replaced with an aircraft not based here. It just increased the seniority pressure. Atlanta has great areas here and there to live and this bizarre base housing thing going on. People want to be here if theyve got no place else they'd rather live. Too bad Western didn't own DEN, it's probably the only place my atlanta hometown wife would move too. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1005649)
"If" they close MSP 330, there will be a lot of pilot early out then displace down. Those poor guys live there, and I know their paid. On the right seat, a lot of them will upgrade. Most are late 80 hires. It is one senior piece of equipment in MSP. It will effect everyone if they just bid down.
MSP A330 is on average the most senior of the A330 bases. It would be interesting to see who would end up on the equipment if they all bid to ATL. |
FTB: Good explanation. DTW is starting to look appealing as an alternative.
In other news, we have the oldest fleet of any mainline / legacy carrier:
Originally Posted by Seeking Alpha
Delta (DAL)
Standouts in Delta's fleet are 117, 20-year-old MD-88s, and surprisingly, 39, 34-year old DC-9s (I'm blown away the firm hasn't parked these). The firm has 164, 757-200s that are about 18 years old, as well. The average age of Delta's fleet, which does include some regional jets (so the age comparison may not be completely apples-to-apples to peers presented in this article), is 15.1 years.
Originally Posted by Nosmo King
(Post 1005741)
MSP A330 is on average the most senior of the A330 bases. It would be interesting to see who would end up on the equipment if they all bid to ATL.
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
(Post 1005739)
I fly with mostly over age 60 captains. as was mentioned in other posts they are "enjoying" wb international flying for the first time in their careers for several reasons. 1) 20 year fence created artificial seniority imbalances 2) When the fence came down, there were very few openings to be awarded due to pilots not retiring and recall rights with no expiration date 3) They were not the most senior Green Book guys and couldn't hold the very few openings that existed 4) Extension to age 65 allowed them to stay flying long enough to see retirements off the 747 and 330 and thus bid the recent openings
I ask every one of them why they chose to fly past 65 and none of them has mentioned finances. Its always the "this international stuff is great!" answer. I am getting kinda tired of sitting through multiple line checks on every trip/ :rolleyes: Nobody is saying, I'll retire and go fly a gulfstream anymore. And we also have folks caught up in the real estate disaster. I flew with an ER FO that got into flipping houses late in the game and had 4 or 5 houses he owned when the economy tanked and his divorce kicked in. Another ER CA was, recently, waitibg to finally hit the point he could declare bankruptcy thanks to condos or homes he owned in the Destin area. 0 incentive for a lot of folks. |
Hey FtB any advice for the ATL M88B plug? Was planning to move to Atlanta but maybe not so now. What are the chances you guys think that I could get booted? Number 497/497 is fun!
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