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80ktsClamp 06-09-2011 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1006117)
i've always thought as a company you should be giving in going into a contract negotiation not going the opposite direction. I watch so many airlines recently bow up going into contract negotiations and laugh. Really?

You want us to believe your Tommy Lasorda, you hit my batter, I'll hit one or two of yours.

It's so much easier to take down a pilot group by giving in here and there. There will be far more pilots who see that as a gesture of good faith versus pilots who say I'll take that and whatever else you got?

Pacify Atlanta? Not a bad idea if this ^^ is your philosophy.

just an observation, nothing more.

And I'm not a basketball fan but man, these finals have been guaranteed good every time. tied with < 3min to go.

Good observation. We'll see how the good cop bad cop negotiating game plays out.

johnso29 06-09-2011 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1005950)
What's your plan? You gonna hang tight in DTW or VD out?

That is still TBD. :D

But I don't want to leave the baby bus. :(

groundstop 06-09-2011 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1005929)
Any idea where planning will displace the DTW 320 B's too? They're saying they don't need MD90 peeps, but where else will they send them?

What about 7ER DTW? There are probably people junior to you on that thing.

johnso29 06-09-2011 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by groundstop (Post 1006126)
What about 7ER DTW? There are probably people junior to you on that thing.

Yeah, but 24 hr SC really sucks for commuters. :(

Bill Lumberg 06-09-2011 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by Ball Breaker (Post 1006031)
All depends on how you spell junior. This will drive equipment more senior in MSP. Lots off A330A's going to 7ERA..... A330B's to A320A/MD88A..... Then you get the trickle down displacements after the A330 displacements. This will drive you relatively more junior in this midwest base. Not good news for MSP types.

Most 330As don't want to go to ATL for a 5-6 week school/sims for the ER. They may opt to go to 744A school since it might still be done in MSP before Natco is closed. Same goes for a lot of the 330Bs, but they may go to ATL for that long school if it gets them a left seat on a narrowbody. A 5-6 week school for the ER right seat just wouldn't be worth it for those senior folks. Some 330Bs may also just stay on the plane and commute to DTW for their one 12 day trip per month. Most up there in MSP want to avoid ATL at all costs. DTW 330 pilots often are commuters, and many live in FLA. They may bid ATL 330 if it is an easier or shorter commute. I bet it goes very senior, and DTW 330 goes more junior. Add to it the $20 per hour pay cut to go down to the 767ER, and most will follow the plane or go upwards to the 747.

Nosmo King 06-10-2011 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1006160)
Most 330As don't want to go to ATL for a 5-6 week school/sims for the ER. They may opt to go to 744A school since it might still be done in MSP before Natco is closed. Same goes for a lot of the 330Bs, but they may go to ATL for that long school if it gets them a left seat on a narrowbody. A 5-6 week school for the ER right seat just wouldn't be worth it for those senior folks. Some 330Bs may also just stay on the plane and commute to DTW for their one 12 day trip per month. Most up there in MSP want to avoid ATL at all costs. DTW 330 pilots often are commuters, and many live in FLA. They may bid ATL 330 if it is an easier or shorter commute. I bet it goes very senior, and DTW 330 goes more junior. Add to it the $20 per hour pay cut to go down to the 767ER, and most will follow the plane or go upwards to the 747.

I am a senior 330B, commuting from FL. ATL is far and away the easiest commute from my residence. I will NOT be bidding ATL on this AE for previously mentioned reasons. Guess I will fall into the commute to DTW for a 12 day trip category. DTW may get more junior on the bottom, but I bet the top of the bid list doesn't move much if at all.

I may change my mind if there is a second ATL AE for the 330, but I just don't see a way to avoid the crappy MED flying that originates out of ATL.

maddogmax 06-10-2011 04:30 AM

Does anyone know how to book positive space Deviating DH on the front of a rotation. I believe we can do that now but I-crew only has a place for the end of rotation DH.

maddogmax 06-10-2011 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1005964)
Bid has only been out a few hours and already the number ahead of me for SEA 7ER has jumped 32 numbers! This is gonna be interesting. May just have to embrace a displacement!

Just remember the SEA weather sucks and the state has a real meth problem and and and....

Well you get my drift!

How do you check that? Can't remember.

DeadHead 06-10-2011 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1006185)
Does anyone know how to book positive space Deviating DH on the front of a rotation. I believe we can do that now but I-crew only has a place for the end of rotation DH.

Someone else might have more info or a better option, but whenever I've done this before I've always coordinated it directly with the crew scheduler/supervisor.
They pay more attention to it since there could possibly be a chance that you would be out of position due to circumstances beyond your control.
Depends on the scheduler, but most were willing to work something out. (Guess it just depends on the time of day/workload)

iaflyer 06-10-2011 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1006185)
Does anyone know how to book positive space Deviating DH on the front of a rotation. I believe we can do that now but I-crew only has a place for the end of rotation DH.

You either book it yourself as Company Business, or call the CPSC for them to do it, I can't remember which. If your front-end DH was business class, you can't book that yourself. You book it in coach, then call the CPSC and they'll upgrade it for you.


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