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scambo1 06-10-2011 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1006160)
Most 330As don't want to go to ATL for a 5-6 week school/sims for the ER. They may opt to go to 744A school since it might still be done in MSP before Natco is closed. Same goes for a lot of the 330Bs, but they may go to ATL for that long school if it gets them a left seat on a narrowbody. A 5-6 week school for the ER right seat just wouldn't be worth it for those senior folks. Some 330Bs may also just stay on the plane and commute to DTW for their one 12 day trip per month. Most up there in MSP want to avoid ATL at all costs. DTW 330 pilots often are commuters, and many live in FLA. They may bid ATL 330 if it is an easier or shorter commute. I bet it goes very senior, and DTW 330 goes more junior. Add to it the $20 per hour pay cut to go down to the 767ER, and most will follow the plane or go upwards to the 747.


Bill;

Overall, I agree with your analysis - except one part. IMO, you overrate the narrowbody left seat. Many/most int'l widebody FOs have been able to hold capt for a while.

The pilots who jump to the left seat at first opportunity are doing (what I call) an ego bid. The pilots who fly int'l long haul by choice look at pay/days worked.

The best it ever got with me was 8 days/month for 81 hours...I rode that for 2+ years. Contrast that with 12-17 days per month for 73 hours as a narrowbody A and you can see the difference. In all honesty, the 8 day month has largely dried up, 9-12 is now the norm, but it is still better than 12-17.

I am interested in seeing how this bid plays out too. Not necessarily with great anticipation, but more from a social engineering perspective. The A330 going to ATL, although not unexpected, is going to be interesting to watch mostly because that will be the Malaria jet.

Too Tall 06-10-2011 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 1006187)
How do you check that? Can't remember.

I CREW, Bids, Advanced Entitlement, Count Pilots Holding A Preference For A Specific Category

CVG767A 06-10-2011 05:49 AM

Is anyone beside me having trouble getting EZBid to submit their bids to the Navtech site? When EZBid takes me to the login page, and I enter my login info, it logs me out immediately. No trouble logging on to Navtech via my browser. Restarting EZBid doesn't help, either.

I have far too many bids to submit them the old school way...

Amish Pilot 06-10-2011 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1006194)
Bill;

Overall, I agree with your analysis - except one part. IMO, you overrate the narrowbody left seat. Many/most int'l widebody FOs have been able to hold capt for a while.

The pilots who jump to the left seat at first opportunity are doing (what I call) an ego bid. The pilots who fly int'l long haul by choice look at pay/days worked.

The best it ever got with me was 8 days/month for 81 hours...I rode that for 2+ years. Contrast that with 12-17 days per month for 73 hours as a narrowbody A and you can see the difference. In all honesty, the 8 day month has largely dried up, 9-12 is now the norm, but it is still better than 12-17.

I am interested in seeing how this bid plays out too. Not necessarily with great anticipation, but more from a social engineering perspective. The A330 going to ATL, although not unexpected, is going to be interesting to watch mostly because that will be the Malaria jet.

Spot-on Scrambo. I know a few of my classmates that have returned to WB F/O due to quality of life issues.....

Tkline 06-10-2011 06:03 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1005999)
That's why I guess NYC 88B, but who knows?

Airbii, especially those based in ATL, are POS airplanes :o


I would be happy to be displaced to NYC. Been trying to get there for 2 bids now and being one of the most junior pilots at the company I am not able to hold NY. Started in MSP and was displaced to the 9 DTW on the last bid. With the 9 going away it would be silly for the company to displace anyone to this plane as they will just face another displacement on the next bid or 2. I'm happy to take the displacement if it puts me in NY next year. The few that got NYC 88b from my class were also displaced to both the 9 DTW and the 320 DTW so it looks like those that got 320 may be facing another displacement.

That's my two cents. Hope we do get displaced to NY, all I know is this too shall be interesting!:eek:

DeadHead 06-10-2011 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Tkline (Post 1006214)
I would be happy to be displaced to NYC. Been trying to get there for 2 bids now and being one of the most junior pilots at the company I am not able to hold NY. Started in MSP and was displaced to the 9 DTW on the last bid. With the 9 going away it would be silly for the company to displace anyone to this plane as they will just face another displacement on the next bid or 2. I'm happy to take the displacement if it puts me in NY next year. The few that got NYC 88b from my class were also displaced to both the 9 DTW and the 320 DTW so it looks like those that got 320 may be facing another displacement.

That's my two cents. Hope we do get displaced to NY, all I know is this too shall be interesting!:eek:

Wow, you must be real junior if you can't hold NYC, but I guess NYC is second fiddle to DTW for the most junior base.
Funny story, last trip had an long layover in DTW, so I asked the captain about contractually having to be put downtown on a long layover, and he was response was basically you don't want anything to do with downtown DTW.

I'll tell you one thing, NYC M88B has been understaffed for a few months now. Approximately 85-90 captains in relation to 65-70 first officers, reserves have been upwards up a 120 RAW score by months end.

Desperado 06-10-2011 06:25 AM

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>>
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DeadHead 06-10-2011 06:29 AM

Boxer Calls for Industry-Wide Policy on Military Baggage Fees After Delta Flap - FoxNews.com

Seriously this is becoming overkill at this point.

Brocc15 06-10-2011 06:30 AM

Let's say I bid 320, then ER on both my AE and VD bids. Now let's say I could hypothetically hold the ER on the Ae but the 320 on the VD, which one would I get?

forgot to bid 06-10-2011 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1006220)

My wife had a good point, why make a video and post it before you let the company, in this case Delta, respond? Get to your destination and say "excuse me, can you help me? I was charged..."


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