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DLpilot 06-10-2011 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1006244)
Oh ok I didn't realize that. But let's say I could hold it seniority wise(using the person who would be displaced), but not unless I bumped someone jr. You can't bump someone JR on an AE, but you can on a VD, right?

Wait, I was going by the ATL 320 where there was no one already in the category. Your last part is correct. I am still learning too. Just bid for what you want is the main thing.

1234 06-10-2011 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1006244)
Oh ok I didn't realize that. But let's say I could hold it seniority wise(using the person who would be displaced), but not unless I bumped someone jr. You can't bump someone JR on an AE, but you can on a VD, right?


Keep in mind that when you VD, you use that person's seniority that you saved from getting displaced for displacing into a category, not yours.

tsquare 06-10-2011 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 1006255)
Keep in mind that when you VD, you use that person's seniority that you saved from getting displaced for displacing into a category, not yours.

... and you get frozen...

DLpilot 06-10-2011 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Adolphus Coors (Post 1006251)
What base and are you seat locked?

If seat locked: You will be able to bid a Capt. position or a new category regardless of lock. Or, You can take a VD to any position the person you are protecting can hold UNLESS it is an OPEN position in which case you will be awarded it based on your own seniority.(ie. new category or vacancy)

If not seat locked: You will be awarded your AE first before your VD.

I do not see anything in the contract allowing you to bid a new category when you have a seat lock. You can only swap bases in the same category or bid a capt position.

DAL 88 Driver 06-10-2011 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 1006235)
15 minutes of fame - enough said. BZ to them for serving our country.

BTW O'Reilly had a good analysis this morning on F&F. He said, this is what you get when you don't pay your employees enough (DAL) and then take away whatever power they might have to make a good decision at their level.

And 88 Driver goes wild with applause!!!! :D

I'm picturing one of those Frank Luntz graphs that shows the lines going up when his focus group dials up their dial thingy's. I think I just broke mine dialing it up off the chart!

rvr350 06-10-2011 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1006245)
Agreed-I've seen multiple friends on FB declare how they are not only boycotting delta, but also making it a point to tell everyone they can to do the same. Of course what comes up is the American Airlines commercial in the terminal thanking soldiers coming home. "See, American gets it." Unreal.

That's fine too. As soon as DL puts up a summer sale, all these naysayers are gonna line up the door and sit in their cheap seats, once again.

BlueMoon 06-10-2011 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1006217)
Wow, you must be real junior if you can't hold NYC, but I guess NYC is second fiddle to DTW for the most junior base.
Funny story, last trip had an long layover in DTW, so I asked the captain about contractually having to be put downtown on a long layover, and he was response was basically you don't want anything to do with downtown DTW.

He is pretty much right. Other than the Casino's there is nothing to do in downtown unless there is a sporting event going on. The Greektown (area near the ballpark) area is the best area of downtown Detroit. It is fairly safe, but still plenty of grifters (like any big city) and it is loud on Friday and Saturday night if there is a ballgame.

nwaf16dude 06-10-2011 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1006258)
I do not see anything in the contract allowing you to bid a new category when you have a seat lock. You can only swap bases in the same category or bid a capt position.


It's still a good idea to have bids in, because the company can waive the freezes any time it wants to, and doesn't have to let you know that its going to do it.

johnso29 06-10-2011 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 1006264)
He is pretty much right. Other than the Casino's there is nothing to do in downtown unless there is a sporting event going on. The Greektown (area near the ballpark) area is the best area of downtown Detroit. It is fairly safe, but still plenty of grifters (like any big city) and it is loud on Friday and Saturday night if there is a ballgame.

Why is it every time you post I think of a tall, frosty one garnished with a orange wedge? :D

DLpilot 06-10-2011 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1006269)
It's still a good idea to have bids in, because the company can waive the freezes any time it wants to, and doesn't have to let you know that its going to do it.

Good point. Never hurts to bid. Just make sure you want it because you might be surprised.


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