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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1000714)
Drat!! All I'm seeing is an "American Pickers" marathon!:mad:
Denny It's Memorial Day where I am, so to all servicemen and service women: Thank you for your service and sacrifice. |
Looking to Off rotation deadhead at the beginning of a rotation from my base ( just want to leave later) to an outstation. Am I reading the contract correctly....are we not allowed to book positive space out of our base? :confused::confused:
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Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1000722)
Maybe you are too many time zones behind. It will show soon.
It's Memorial Day where I am, so to all servicemen and service women: Thank you for your service and sacrifice. Actually I just saw the program listing. Here it is on the History International channel which, unfortunately, is one of those extra channels that is not part of my package.:o I do get the regular history channel and can get my fill of American Pickers and Pawn Stars for the next couple of days.:mad: I also see a program on the same channel about Shermans March. I bet that's going over in a biiiig way down in 'lanta town!!:) Denny |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1000725)
Hear! Hear! or is it Here! Here! Any way my sentiment is the same.
Actually I just saw the program listing. Here it is on the History International channel which, unfortunately, is one of those extra channels that is not part of my package.:o I do get the regular history channel and can get my fill of American Pickers and Pawn Stars for the next couple of days.:mad: I also see a program on the same channel about Shermans March. I bet that's going over in a biiiig way down in 'lanta town!! Denny Shhhhh. Don't tell anyone. I'm watching it right now. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1000721)
I will reiterate: career expectations are sooooo much more than just pay.
Denny All career expectations are in forms of compensation which have a monetary value assigned to them. Why does Southwest have so many applications from Delta pilots? I'm not trying to be a jerk I'm just curious what the other forms are? |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1000731)
Like what? Flying larger aircraft; isn't that for higher pay? Better schedule; isn't that for higher pay(work less for the same or more)? A more stable carrier; isn't that for maintaining pay? A better retirement; isn't that for higher pay?
All career expectations are in forms of compensation which have a monetary value assigned to them. Why does Southwest have so many applications from Delta pilots? I'm not trying to be a jerk I'm just curious what the other forms are? I don't know that Southwest does have many applications from Delta pilots. How many do they have? I'm sure there are a few but I suspect not very many. For what it's worth, I don't think you are being a jerk, I think your definition of career expectations is wrong. Denny |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1000731)
Like what? Flying larger aircraft; isn't that for higher pay? Better schedule; isn't that for higher pay(work less for the same or more)? A more stable carrier; isn't that for maintaining pay? A better retirement; isn't that for higher pay?
All career expectations are in forms of compensation which have a monetary value assigned to them. Why does Southwest have so many applications from Delta pilots? I'm not trying to be a jerk I'm just curious what the other forms are? If that's the case let me be frank and say we don't want to merge with DCI carriers, we want scope to eliminate their use here and grow organically. I can't think of a reason why merging with ASA, Comair or any DCI makes sense other than CPZ and that's because they only have E-jets and because of the way they were set up by NWA. Any other DCI would not be beneficial imho. As to seniority, look at DAL and Alaska. If we merged, how do you think they (arbitrators) would merge that? If we merged with SWA, how do you think they would merge that? And for good measure ASA? What Denny said about pay is right, if we merged with SWA in 2004 and based the SLI on pay tables SWA would've been slaughtered. 2011, SWA would have the upper hand. But they don't base it on pay tables, which is where your $500/hr argument comes from, because pay can get cut. So can work rules. They seem to like networks, fleets and growth. |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1000739)
I have to disagree with you. I do not think career expectations are in the form of money. Your career expectation at a regional is to make it to the left seat of 76 seat regional jet. My career expectation at a major is to reach the left seat of 747-400, 777, or 787. Money has nothing to do with our career expectations. It's a by product of the position/career expectation you have/can achieve at your airline.
I don't know that Southwest does have many applications from Delta pilots. How many do they have? I'm sure there are a few but I suspect not very many. For what it's worth, I don't think you are being a jerk, I think your definition of career expectations is wrong. Denny |
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1000710)
ftb & Satch,
I can't remember who was the history buff between you two. But, either way or both, I think I mentioned a great book I read years ago called April 1865. Tonight on the History Channel they made it into a 2 hour special. Check it out if you can. Carl |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 1000742)
Didn't the bankruptcy lower your career expectations? What if you had a UPS type pay scale and the DC-9 was the only plane based in your domicile where your family lived? Would your expectation still be the 747, 777, and 787?
It's reasonable to assume their career expectation is to progress upwards and not camp out. |
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