I posted a few pages back that when we were acquired by NWA, the XJ MEC wanted to file a PID to force a SLI. We got shot down by ALPA, since there was nothing good that could of come from that. Bucking said that ALPA was using us for bargaining credits. I say it's because a SLI would destroy the union.

Bankruptcy did not lower my career expectations. It lowered my career earnings. I still expect to be a Captain on one of those aircraft if I want to. The domicile question is easy. Yes because I will have a seniority number capable of holding those aircraft if I want to. If I decide I want to commute then I will commute and fly one of those aircraft. It doesn't mean I will but I have the ability to do so.

FTB said it better than I did.

Denny

What's bolded above is SUCH a critical point and provides us a shot at salvation. Since the 1974 court case that sets the precedent regarding Scope, management has NO LEGAL ALTERNATIVE if we disagree to any changes in Section 1. The NMB is legally obliged to remove any Section 1 changes from the bargaining table if WE just say no. Everything else is hard negotiations, but with Section 1 changes, we only have to say no. This puts us in the driver's seat because economics and traffic congestion is rapidly killing 50 seaters and will soon kill off 76 seaters. Management's ONLY HOPE is that we ALLOW higher than 76 seat jets. If we simply don't, management is stuck with a Section 1 that is meaningless...unlimited use of jets that will do nothing but lose them money.

If we hold the line on Scope right here ladies and gentlemen, time and economics will make our current Section 1 weaknesses irrelevant. Now whether ALPA/DALPA will grieve any blatant violations of our Scope, the obvious answer there is no. But at least we can control whether we keep ALPA. We lose all options if we give one more inch on Scope.

Carl

That is exactly what he and the other RJ folks are hoping for. They've almost surely interviewed at the majors, and for whatever reason, they didn't get on. This would be the back-door entrance.

Economics and congestion makes our current Section 1 weaknesses a dead issue if we just hold the line right here. Then as economics kill off the 76 seaters, we can grow Delta organically...with pilots that we choose. THAT'S the biggest fear of people like Mesabah. Their only hope is to scare major pilots into a belief that merging with RJ carriers is the way to ensure our jobs won't be outsourced...which is obviously incorrect.

Carl

Happy Memorial Day.

God bless all that have fallen in the past...and prayers that we never lose another one.

Carl

Carl I'm not even 30 years old and this was the first year I applied to other carriers. No interviews with majors just yet.

I agree with almost everything you say. We definitely need to hold the line on Scope and what you describe will most likely come true. But, DALPA is grieving the Delta Air Elite violation. I do think DALPA should "press to test" on the Republic situation but, unfortunately, the writing seems to be on the wall there. I, personally, am not yet at the point of giving up on them. I try to look on the half full side but it is becoming more difficult!

Denny

Just finished my quarterly CQ. The disc makes a great frisbee for the dog to chase around after you're done with it. :)

Delta Air Elite is a violation of our contract. Republic holdings is something you don't like but not a violation of the contract. Even if it were a violation and we won in the grievance process it would not have any major impact on pilot manning at Delta. Arbitrators are always sensitive to the operations of the airlines. They would give management a time frame to come into compliance with their ruling. Probably 12 months or so. Management would simply move all those RJ's to other carriers. It would take them a matter of days to rehire outsourced lift. They would have to end up paying out a bunch of cash to Republic to cancel the contract however the airframes would still be flying for Delta without Delta pilots.

That is of course, just your opinion. The outcome of the grievance will determine what is factual.

That is of course, just your opinion. The outcome of the grievance will determine what is factual. Oops...since ALPA will refuse to file a grievance, opinion is all we'll ever have on this.

Complete and total speculation on your part.

Who cares. You defend all sections of your contract regardless of whether or not management may be able to get around it in some other way. Unless of course it is ALPA and Scope...then there will be no defense of that.

Carl