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johnso29 06-13-2011 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 1007556)
Yes, they are. I think there is a caveat that allows you to volunteer for another one though. Of course you might also volunteer for a TSA strip search also.

Thanks. I found it in Sec 23. I have a friend new to the 7er and he thought they could assign unlimited SC's! :eek:

FedElta 06-13-2011 05:24 AM

Omg................re : Scambo's link

Bucking Bar 06-13-2011 05:32 AM

Tetas de mi esposa se ​​hizo más grande y mejor después de que el bebé

Humbug with all of your negativity on the fun bags. Take it from the owners' these things are to be played with.


After all, how do you make five pounds of body fat attractive? Put a nipple on it!

freightguy 06-13-2011 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1007552)
Hey guys,

Aren't ALL categories limited to 6 SC's a month?

Yes...but...international categories have 24 hr long short calls though. It is OK if you live in base...otherwise you can get screwed. For example, they assign Monday 6:00 AM to Tuesday 6:00 short call. (now thats two hotel rooms...you made it to your base Sunday night to be in position early morning on Monday). It gets even worse. They give Tuesday off for rest and then assign a 24 hr short call window on Wednesday again. Now...you can't get home on Tuesday (if you're a commuter) because you have to be in position by 6:00 AM (8:00AM latest) on Wedneday for the short call. So...you do 2 short calls and eat 5 hotel rooms :eek:....and add all the time spent away from home. I'm trying to get out of my seat lock and get displaced to a domestic category on this AE! In the meantime...time to get a dang crash pad...I thought I was done with it :(

johnso29 06-13-2011 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by freightguy (Post 1007571)
Yes...but...international categories have 24 hr long short calls though. It is OK if you live in base...otherwise you can get screwed. For example, they assign Monday 6:00 AM to Tuesday 6:00 short call. (now thats two hotel rooms...you made it to your base Sunday night to be in position early morning on Monday). It gets even worse. They give Tuesday off for rest and then assign a 24 hr short call window on Wednesday again. Now...you can't get home on Tuesday (if you're a commuter) because you have to be in position by 6:00 AM (8:00AM latest) on Wedneday for the short call. So...you do 2 short calls and eat 5 hotel rooms :eek:....and add all the time spent away from home. I'm trying to get out of my seat lock and get displaced to a domestic category on this AE! In the meantime...time to get a dang crash pad...I thought I was done with it :(

Yeah. Those 24 hour SC's STINK! :(

Wilbur Wright 06-13-2011 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1007264)
I thought about bidding the 330, but only for a minute. I do not mind the jet, and would not mind the pay bump. 12+ hr flights are a plus, but it is the MED destinations and the limited city pairs that had me think twice. The ER goes everywhere and I love that variety. If I can keep it, it is where I will stay. A small category like atl will have on the 330 leads to weird trips, and limited options.

Look at NYC's 777 and 765 seats for an example.

I'm afraid you're right. I'm sure they're eventually grow the category to include Europe, but with only 50 captains, I'm betting the initial trips will be those that currently require deadheads at both ends. The good news is that includes HNL, the bad news is the rest of those trips are Africa.

Looking at the ATL330 captain to FO ratio, it appears there will be some 12+ hour flights included which to me means Lagos in the winter.

hockeypilot44 06-13-2011 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by freightguy (Post 1007571)
Yes...but...international categories have 24 hr long short calls though. It is OK if you live in base...otherwise you can get screwed. For example, they assign Monday 6:00 AM to Tuesday 6:00 short call. (now thats two hotel rooms...you made it to your base Sunday night to be in position early morning on Monday). It gets even worse. They give Tuesday off for rest and then assign a 24 hr short call window on Wednesday again. Now...you can't get home on Tuesday (if you're a commuter) because you have to be in position by 6:00 AM (8:00AM latest) on Wedneday for the short call. So...you do 2 short calls and eat 5 hotel rooms :eek:....and add all the time spent away from home. I'm trying to get out of my seat lock and get displaced to a domestic category on this AE! In the meantime...time to get a dang crash pad...I thought I was done with it :(

I have zero international categories on my bid because of this. Maybe someday I'll be senior enough to not worry about reserve. Those will be the days.

forgot to bid 06-13-2011 06:22 AM

Different, ATL-FNT and ATL-CLE for 30+ hours.

forgot to bid 06-13-2011 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1007585)
I have zero international categories on my bid because of this. Maybe someday I'll be senior enough to not worry about reserve. Those will be the days.

Hence the reason Delta in 07-08 was hiring directly into the ER. And people looked at us and scoffed, you shouldn't be here yet! It took me 10 years to hold ER FO.

Well, we flew a lot less international when you had 10 years in the company, we used international widebodies to fly ATL-MCO, and SC sucks on RES on the ER.

PilotFrog 06-13-2011 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by Ball Breaker (Post 1006968)
Must have changed, I remember:

Handgrips - Raise
Triggers - Squeeze

Either that or I'm sat for the day--or at least the morning go!

Crew, Canopy, Cords, Crouch, Dive, Puil.


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