What was that BS we used to say? Line on line, point on point, four green, no red no amber two good cookers, lets go.

I still dont know what that was all about.:eek:

Complete boldface was 46 words.

How 'bout this one for the USN guys.

Tomcat spin recovery boldface (can't believe I still remember this):

"Stick - Forward, neutral lateral, lock harness.
Both Throttles - Idle
Rudder- Opposite turn needle/yaw.

If no recovery:

Stick - into Turn Needle.

If still no recovery:

Check Roll SAS - ON
Stick - Into and Aft turn needle

If recovery indicated:

Controls - neutralize
Recover at 17 units AOA
Thrust as required.

If flat spin verified by flat attitude, increasing yaw rate, increasing eyeball out G, lack of pitch and rolls rates:

Canopy - Jettison
RIO - Command Eject."

Try spitting that one out at the 5am mass brief.

(disclaimer-- It's been a while, I probably forgot a step. Sorry, SDO duty for me).

Cheers,
ImTumbleweed

"Afterburner is a great substitute for poor headwork"

Window heat, pitot heat, what's to eat... nice landing skipper, and I'll take the fat one.

Yeah, but did you remember that or did you have to look it up?:D

I had a guy coming from the 320 have a horrible time with the 737. The instructor even went so far as to call Minne to talk with the 320 instuctors to get some help for this guy.

Luckily for me, I had already been on the airplane a few years earlier and only needed a refresher. The guy wasn't weak, he just wasn't getting the differences. Had a hell of a time. I even took the time to write it up. I never write anything up. The 320 guys need an FMS class added to the syllabus. It's just too different.

Fast entry, more oscillatory, longer to develop and stabilize. I'd love to go for a quick spin ride in that thing, if I could still get the engines started. My favorite was IP vs IP solo cloudchasing with some TCU in the area. Split up and watch the other guy spin.

^^^That's what I'm talking about.:)

Can anyone clarify this one for me? As they retire the dc9 and I possibly get frozen on the dc9 in the next couple AE's, do it get paid what I can hold or what I'm displaced to?

That's kind of the point I was making with the Compass flow up guys who where having trouble on the older generation Delta equipment.

All this is making me wonder if the transition the other way (Boeing to Bus) is equally "different."

One point, with all this talk of stalls and spins is, in the civilian world spins just are not taught any more. Given the number of commercial pilots who have departed controlled flight recently it would appear a must that some time in a pilot's training they spin a few airplanes. One regional sent their IP's out to spend a few hours in an Extra 300 before teaching upset recovery training. IMHO, that was an excellent idea (and fun too).