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forgot to bid 07-20-2011 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1025723)
We could treat them just like Delta treated the (insert your choice from the menu below) who were turned down by Delta in an interview.

Northeast, Ransom, Western, C&S, ASA (some transferred), Comair (some of them too), Pan Am, Northwest, Pacific Northern Airlines, Mesaba, Compass and Huff Deland Dusters. For all others, just use this blank: _____________ and another sheet of paper if you run out of room.

Unity, more important than bigotry.

(not busting your chops, I like your posts. You just tossed me a softball and I couldn't resist taking a swing)

To whom are we supposed to have unity with? I have unity with Delta pilots only.

I support others, I support Coex pilots where I once worked and I refuse to pull up ladders, but my unity is with and only with Delta pilots.

I ask because in that CAL-Coex deal one of the pilots rejected was damn near fired multiple times at Coex. The type that would fly an RJ at 250 knots in all phases of flight except descent, then it was 200. He arrived tremendously late except on the last leg so he could catch his commute. He had money to make back I guess. Overall, a miserable individual.

CAL was right to say no. But they were forced to take him. There were a lot of good people not hired and left us scratching our heads I'm sure. But sometimes, there are people that you wouldn't want to share a cockpit with, no?

Bucking Bar 07-20-2011 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1025687)
So DPA's lawyer has said that it is quite easy to renegotiate a seniority list.

‪Airplane! 2 - Dunn was over Unger, and I was over Dunn.‬‏ - YouTube

All things in our profession can be made fun of with scenes from the movie Airplane!

Bucking Bar 07-20-2011 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1025733)
To whom are we supposed to have unity with? I have unity with Delta pilots only.

Point being, what was proposed a few threads back was a staple seniority merger with bidding protections, in which case they would be Delta pilots. Therefore your question would be moot by virtue of the fact that they would be Delta pilots.

Management's job is to keep them off the list, the union's job is to treat all union members the same.

Until they promote me, give me a better schedule, more pay, less responsibility and a better parking spot I'm still labor.

One of my favorite quotes from the banned version of the Cool Aid Chronicle:

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ALPA DEFENDS PILOT

Management gave 60 days leave without pay to Captain Smith who it was learned placed fourth in pro / amateur Pebble Beach golf tournament in on May Second, on a day Captain Smith had called in sick. ALPA has responded, filing a grievance which contests the discipline stating, "just think, if Captain Smith had not been sick, he would have won."

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It is a joke, but every pilot deserves our union's advocacy. Speaking as a pilot, I say, let management do their job.

Bucking Bar 07-20-2011 10:53 AM

Interesting news. Management used the bankruptcy rules to screw pilots. Some pilots used similar acts of legerdemain to unscrew their situation.


DALLAS (AP) -- In a case involving Continental Airlines, a federal appeals court says benefit administrators don't have the power to decide whether employees' divorces are real or fake.

Continental sued nine of its pilots, claiming that they got "sham" divorces so their ex-spouses could tap their lump-sum pensions while they still worked for the airline -- then remarried the same partners.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday upheld a lower-court ruling that employers can't consider or investigate why employees get divorced or whether the divorce is genuine. The appeals court dismissed Continental's 2009 lawsuit, which was filed in federal district court in Houston.

acl65pilot 07-20-2011 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1025750)
Interesting news. Management used the bankruptcy rules to screw pilots. Some pilots used similar acts of legerdemain to unscrew their situation.

Now that ruling may effect a few DAL pilots.

hockeypilot44 07-20-2011 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1025707)
DOH and then bring over the 70+ seaters. XJT would be a problem as they never had 70+ seaters to begin with.

And what happens if the person was turned down by DAL in an interview? I saw this at CAL-Coex flow through, they offered some sort of way to interview and go early out of seniority order and there were people literally turned down by CAL who had to stay at XJT until they flowed up. So in essence, CAL hired pilots they said they didn't want to hire.

The beauty of this if it was real, you're not closing Surely jet or other similiar DCIs. You're letting them exist you're just taking stuff and bringing people that want to come because they could say no.

But no fences.



Compass? We could kick RAH out and replace them with Delta flying?

What would happen to the 255 limit? Could we take it down to 0?

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I'm sure though in the end that we're just all speeding down the highway with smoke trailing from our Labrador blunt:

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1311185012

How could we do DOH? Our list isn't even in DOH order.

forgot to bid 07-20-2011 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1025772)
How could we do DOH? Our list isn't even in DOH order.

I meant if we stapled multiple DCIs. They could be DOH amongst themselves.

Standby, puff puff pass.

Okay next? Who wants to share in this pipe dream?

hockeypilot44 07-20-2011 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1025776)
I meant if we stapled multiple DCIs. They could be DOH amongst themselves.

Standby, puff puff pass.

Okay next? Who wants to share in this pipe dream?

So you want to put them behind all current Delta pilots with seat protection? Sounds good to me. They will all be behind me.

NuGuy 07-20-2011 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1025776)
Okay next? Who wants to share in this pipe dream?


This whole line of wishful thinking is just that.

Nu

forgot to bid 07-20-2011 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1025788)
This whole line of wishful thinking is just that.

Nu

Puff puff pass Nu! Puff puff pass! Stop screwing up the rotation.


:D


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