Feels and sounds good though, huh? :D

I'll take some of that.

Sounds good, but I would just hand the regional lists to an arbitrator and tell them to merge them, each side gets to make their argument. As a guy who is on my second DCI carrier after the last one downsized, I'd like some credit for the last 5.5 years. That way there is some semblance of a fair integration. Then staple it all to the bottom of Big D's list.

Also, exclude non ALPA regional carriers and limit the flying to their current levels and no renewal to their CPA when it expires.

Who cares what certificate the plane is on or what company holds the certificate. All flying done for Delta or Delta Connection is done by a pilot on the Delta Master Seniority List and is ruled by the Delta contract. Delta charges the regional company for use of it's pilots. The regional operates as it does know, just minus pilots and probably less support staff. They become an Aircraft, Maintenance, and Insurance company.

Pass to the left

^^^^^ You crack me up FTB.

You can look at the transcripts from the original Addington vs. USAPA case and you will find at least 100 times. Here is a snippet from Seham's appeal to the 9th Circuit (emphasis added):

Here is another (emphasis added):

Here is the link to the document. Go to page 37 and there is an entire section titled "DOH Seniority Integration as the Gold Standard".

http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/9th_...al-25Sep09.pdf

Funny, not a word about DPA anywhere. Stop the nonsense comparison, you look silly.

Do I get credit for my ten years at a DCI carrier before I came to DAL? :eek:

I wasn't referring to getting credit for it above anyone on the DL seniority list.

Just during the regional integration arbitration...all the regional's would still be below DL pilots. That is how I would argue it, but I wouldn't expect anything from it, given how most integrations seem to unfold...such is life and it wouldn't work for myriad of reasons I can think of. Let an arbitrator decide how to merge 6 regional lists, that way you can't be accused of favoring one group over another.

Or just give us all an interview and sunset every cpa. I'm fine with that to.

Not sure why I'm arguing it, probably because it is 98 out an I'm delaying my daily run as long as possible, as it is all a pipe dream.

Read my original post, I said this is what the DPA's attorney has said, I did not say this was DPA's position. If you think that that there aren't any DPA members that want to change the seniority list and think DPA is the vehicle for that, then you are smoking crack. Come hang out in the DTW lounge for a few hours and you will see. DPA still can be all things to all people, because they have never had to stick to anything they have written or said, they can just change it at a whim.

Note again, I never said this was DPA's official position, I have seen the blurb on the website. My point was and remains, the DPA attorney has said that negotiating changed seniority lists was like negotiating crew meals and the DOH is the gold standard. I have provided proof of both of those statements. This is not an opinion, it is cold hard fact.

The DPA spin machine is out in force today, I think I hit a nerve.

I keep trying to tell my buddies that who are discussing it on a discussion we have ongoing, but stranger things have happened. DAL knows it needs pilots, knows it needs new jets, and knows that its pilots are in no mood to give up the 190 to make their decision easy. Combine all of that, and you just never know what may happen.

I meant my comment TIC, because frankly, DALPA would never to agree to anything that did otherwise.

Good concepts but two real problems. The first issue is how do you get management to agree. They own the seniority list not the union. They love divide and conquer as a cost savings measure.
The second issue is you say staple the regionals. The last time this got a serious look the airline involved (starts with a C and ends with a R) rejected a staple completely. They insisted on ALPA merger policy and made it know that their position would be DOH.