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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 964159)
The government/DOT does not even track "D-0." The metric is A+14. If the flight blocks in by scheduled arrival time + 14 minutes, it is considered an "on time" flight by the DOT. If it blocks in later than that, it is late.
Focus on A+14 is IMO the way to get this done. I saw it done very effectively at a former airline. I understand the thinking with "D-0" (if the flight leaves on time, it's more likely to arrive on time)... and that should be part of the equation. But the obsession over this one aspect, and especially the pressure being put on various departments (especially the gate agents) is IMO counterproductive and a big part of the reason we are not succeeding. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 964160)
Once upon a time the language applied to the holding company, but I believe was changed to the meaningless "certificate" instead (how that gaping hole got past the best and brightest ALPA lawyers is beyond me). So now little "air group" wanna be's can play the separate certificate trick which hurts not only our pilot group but our company and shareholders as well because we subsidize fare and yield trashing competitors who will, as a direct result of the nature of outsourcing, always have lower costs than we do because their pilot groups wouldn't exist in the first place if they weren't the lowest bidder. We then subsidize their right hand as they use their left hand (and its super low labor cost) against our company.
A single seniority list makes me think they're 1 airline flying both permitted and not permitted aircraft. I mean how is this different than RAH acquiring 757s and flying those under their own code? Dealing with Section 1 is nowhere near is interesting nor as fun as 23 or 3 or what have you, I'm not very versed. Just wish it was as simple as this scope language... that belongs to Republic: D. Scope 1. This Agreement covers the company, any subsidiary of the company, the company’s parent, any subsidiary of the company’s parent and any future airline certificate(s) created as a subsidiary of the company or subsidiary of the company’s parent. 2. Except as otherwise provided in this Agreement, all present and future flying (including that international flying which originates or terminates within the United States or its possessions) and all charters, ferry flights (not including ferry flights of newly acquired aircraft prior to being placed in revenue service), training flights, test flights, (except test flights assigned to management), or other utilization of aircraft owned or leased by the company, the company’s parent or any subsidiary of the company or subsidiary of the company’s parent shall be performed by pilots on the Chautauqua Airlines Pilots’ System Seniority List in accordance with the terms and conditions of this Agreement or any other applicable agreement between the company, the company’s parent or any subsidiary of the company’s parent and the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Airline Division. 3. The Company, Subsidiary of the Company, the Company’s Parent or Subsidiary of the Parent shall not establish any new airline (alter ego or otherwise) or acquire a controlling interest in any carrier whether directly or through the Parent or another Subsidiary of the Parent, and maintain it as a separate carrier. A “Controlling Interest” or “Control” means the ownership of an equity interest representing more than fifty percent (50%) of the outstanding capital stock of an entity or voting securities representing more than fifty percent (50%) of the total voting power of outstanding securities then entitled to vote generally in the election of such entity’s board of directors or other governing body. 4. The Company will not transfer aircraft, or operating authority to its Parent, a Subsidiary of the Parent, or to a Subsidiary of the Company for the purpose of evading the terms of this Agreement. The Company will also not establish a third party leasing device to evade the terms of this agreement. |
Originally Posted by satchip
(Post 964164)
Upon further review, I stand corrected. I agree with you on arrival times. Pax don't care what time it leaves if it gets there on time.
I really see that when you come into ATL 1 hour early and you won't get into the gate for 55 minutes so to a passenger we're 55 minutes late - unless you repeat we're way early, all gates occupied, for the sake of your luggage it's best when we don't swap gates, we're in the gate 5 minutes early. I had an old man getting off a plane unload his frustrations on me for being late. We seriously, no lie, 15 minutes early and we never stopped moving from landing to the gate. It just took 20 minutes to deplane but I don't think he was talking about that, to him, we were late and he needed to have it out with the pilot. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OVDC8Ab6RF...pson_large.jpg |
Is something going on with ASA that they could pull a mesa styled "performance card" on them? I don't know a single thing about ASA's operation other than that I've flown on them for DH'd and non-reving and they're regular. like me. But something about maintenance and crew staffing issues.
Just curious, some of you obviously were at ASA and would know if that's true. |
way off topic
Sorry for the thread jack....
Hey cell phone guru's. I have a question for anyone at delta using the evo, evo-shift, or epic. I was thinking of switching back to sprint after swearing them off 5 years ago. Of particular importance would be to access i-crew. I am currently with t-mobile and like their product but sprint might work best for what I have on my cell account. |
Hmmmm???
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SNAPSHOT-Developments after major Japan earthquake | March 15, 2011 | 9 http://imagec14.247realmedia.com/Rea...lt/empty.gif/0 (* indicates a new or updated entry) TOKYO, March 15 (Reuters) - Following are main developments after a massive earthquake struck northeast Japan on Friday and set off a tsunami. [ID:n LDE72D2FT] - Japan PM Kan says radioactive levels significantly higher around the quake-stricken Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, hit by new blasts on Tuesday. The risk of a nuclear leakage was rising at the power plant on the northeast coast, Kan says. - People within a 30 km radius of the facility urged to stay indoors. - Low-level radioactive wind from the nuclear reactor could reach Tokyo by evening, based on current winds, the French embassy says. Winds over the plant blowing slowly in southwesterly direction that includes Tokyo, but will shift westerly, a Japanese weather official says. - Radiation levels rise in Tokyo but it was not a problem, the city government says. "Minute levels" of radiation detected in the capital. according to Kyodo. Radiation levels in Saitama near Tokyo were 40 times normal level - not enough to cause human damage, but enough to stoke panic in the capital. - Some residents leave the capital while others stock up on food and supplies. - Radiation levels in the city of Maebashi, 100 km (60 miles) north of the capital, Tokyo, were up to 10 times normal on Tuesday, Kyodo news agency said, quoting the city government. - Japan's benchmark Nikkei average plunges 14 percent, heading for the biggest fall since 1987. The decline over the last two days has wiped $720 billion off the market. - Air China cancels flights to Tokyo as concerns mount. Other airlines monitoring the situation but no flight cancellations yet. - China's nuclear safety agency says closely watching Japan crisis and strengthening radiation checks. Thailand says will randomly test food imports from Japan. - Two explosions at Fukushima facility, at reactors No.2 and No.4 followed by fire at No.4. Japan's self defence force and the U.S. military called to put out the fire. - Authorities have set up a 20-km (12-mile) exclusion zone around the Fukushima Daiichi plant and a 10-km (6 mile) zone around Fukushima Daini. - Death toll expected to exceed 10,000 from the quake and tsunami, public broadcaster NHK says. About 2,000 bodies found on two shores of Miyagi prefecture, Kyodo news agency reports. - USGS raises the magnitude of the earthquake to 9.0 from 8.9. Strong aftershocks persist in the stricken area. - About 450,000 people evacuated nationwide in addition to 80,000 from the exclusion zone around the nuclear power plants. Almost 2 million households are without power in the freezing north and about 1.4 million households have no running water. - Rolling blackout to affect 3 million customers, including large factories, buildings and households. Kan urges citizens to save power. - Japan Economics Minister Kaoru Yosano says it is important to keep the Tokyo markets open and closing the market would have a big international impact. - The Bank of Japan (BoJ) offers to pump 8 trillion yen ($98 billion) into the banking system to calm the market, a day after a record $15 trillion it offered in same-day market operations on Monday. - Credit Suisse estimates the loss at between 14 trillion yen ($171 billion) and 15 trillion yen just to the quake region. * With that in mind, what becomes of an airliner that flies through a "dirty cloud" while operating near near said reactor fallout? * How badly does it become contaminated when it ingests radioactive particles? * Can it ever be decontaminated or must it be disposed of properly? * At what point do more airlines make the same decision as Air China? |
More Hhhmmm??
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Japanese authorities impose no-fly zone above blast-hit nuke plant http://en.rian.ru/images/16301/17/163011707.jpg Japanese authorities impose no-fly zone above blast-hit nuke plant © REUTERS/ Digital Globe 10:23 15/03/2011 The Japanese Transport Ministry declared a no-fly zone within the range of 30 km from the blast-hit Fukushima 1 Nuclear Power Plant, the Kyodo news agency said on Tuesday. The ban does not include planes and helicopters involved in rescue efforts and delivering aid to quake-hit areas. Fears of a large-scale nuclear disaster remain high in Japan as the country continues relief operations following a devastating earthquake and tsunami that have killed nearly 6,000 people and left thousands missing. Cooling systems of the Fukushima plant failed following the earthquake, resulting in blasts in units one and three on Monday. Early on Tuesday, the 4th reactor was hit by a blast, which resulted in leak of radioactive isotopes. Reuters said, citing the International Atomic Energy Agency, that a spent fuel storage pond was on fire and radiation leaked "directly" into the atmosphere. Dose rates of up to 400 millisievert per hour have been recorded in the area. TOKYO, March 15 (RIA Novosti) |
Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 964134)
Agree, unrealistic turns destroy the sked integrity, than loss of customer goodwill follows...I'm always stuned how many HKs show up on the lists everyday, even without wx events.
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 964098)
You are mistaken. This is the continuation of a long trend. The legacy carriers have continued to retreat rather than compete in the domestic market. (I was looking for stats but my wife cleaned up my Air Transport World magazine and darned if I'm going outside to dig it out of the garbage).
Legacy carriers are already at the stage where domestic operations primarily exist to feed international operations. Point to point has largely been ceded to Southwest, JetBlue and the others who care to pursue it. One of the few that is fighting back is American with their 737 fleet. What keeps me up at night is what happens when Emirates and their kind finish their 700 airplane explosive expansion? Where do we run then? If anything, smart management keeps the wine and roses on the table as long as they can (as did our management). It will be interesting to see the follow through on this from National/Local on this, however the threat and solution were clearly articulated. Emirates is exerting a lot of financial pressure on the EU and other countries tied to Airbus manufacturing to ease restrictions on cabotage or they will not buy the huge aircraft order. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 964170)
I just think when you do look at 1.D.2.C I don't see how what RAH is doing is permitted. It talks about a domestic air carrier and it defines it as: “air carrier” means a citizen of the United States undertaking by any means, directly or indirectly, to provide air transportation.
A single seniority list makes me think they're 1 airline flying both permitted and not permitted aircraft. I mean how is this different than RAH acquiring 757s and flying those under their own code? Dealing with Section 1 is nowhere near is interesting nor as fun as 23 or 3 or what have you, I'm not very versed. Just wish it was as simple as this scope language... that belongs to Republic: DALPA disagrees adamantly with you. Why? I dont know. If you read the definitions and then read the various scope sections that can be construed to apply, it is clear to this reader what the intent is/was and that it has been violated since the bigger jet acquisitions by RAH. If any apologists jump on here and disagree, it will be only on the grounds that ALPA legal decided not to fight it (shock :eek:!). Read the language yourself and it will be clear that your elected reps have turned a blind eye on this tipic...and they know it. As a non-card sender, it may be that DPA hasn't called it quits yet pending the courts ruling on RAHs single airline status...IOW to demonstrate/capitalize on DALPA not representing the DAL pilots. |
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