Management pilot got lost trying to find ATL. Had to start at his golf cart path and work his way back to the field.

that's what she said!!

Similar experiences and on time. Just came off a 4-day and we launched early on almost every leg. DTW seems to be improving while, in a weird sense, MSP seems to be regressing with the 73.

You are mistaken. This is the continuation of a long trend. The legacy carriers have continued to retreat rather than compete in the domestic market. (I was looking for stats but my wife cleaned up my Air Transport World magazine and darned if I'm going outside to dig it out of the garbage).

Legacy carriers are already at the stage where domestic operations primarily exist to feed international operations. Point to point has largely been ceded to Southwest, JetBlue and the others who care to pursue it. One of the few that is fighting back is American with their 737 fleet.

What keeps me up at night is what happens when Emirates and their kind finish their 700 airplane explosive expansion? Where do we run then?

If anything, smart management keeps the wine and roses on the table as long as they can (as did our management).

That happened again?

Its funny how if you achieve D-0, it makes it easier on the other end...try taking the bus into ATL, talk about a learning curve!:)

The real question is: What do we, as Delta pilots, do if DALPA allows Delta to use this lift...

Let me put it this way: If DALPA allows Delta to continue using this lift after RAH is declared a single carrier (which they clearly always have been and the ALPA lawyers have told DALPA they arent) What purpose does DALPA serve?

Is DPA a better option?

These are what ifs, they havent happened, but if they do, DALPA does not have the Delta pilots' back.

Same thing happens going from the downtown NYC hotel to JFK. Its a delay just waiting to happen. What I find most alarming, for us 73 guys on the left coast, is how we have 40 minute turns in SFO from jets coming in from MSP. They're always late, then so are we. Apparently, D-0 ain't so important if the marketing guys are building in impossible turns from across the country.

I see less and less point to point with SWA as time goes on. Seems they are moving closer to a hub and spoke system everyday. If you want to fly somewhere on them there is a good chance your 1st stop will be MDW, BWI, HOU, or PHX. Plus, DAL does some point to point as well. Just the other day I did BDL-TPA-DCA. Shouldn't domestic feed international? Don't we want revenue from international flying?

As far as Emirates, let's hope LM works some magic.

45 min turns from florida to dtw are near impossible. dca-dtw, fine, but snow birds = massive delays.

I agree with the previous caller, the delays due to short turns is a marketing problem and I know that was being addressed.