Originally Posted by satchip (Post 962752)

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 963074)

Is there any kind of point reduction if someone posts hieroglyphics?

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 963074)

Is there any kind of point reduction if someone posts hieroglyphics?

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 963039)

No, but that's not IMHO the major problem with it. Touch drop is great for some, and it rewards the jailhouse lawyers and computer programmer/bidder types (especially with good relative seniority in category) but there's a better way to go IMHO.

Simply increasing the credit hours per day would provide a significantly improved vacation experience for all pilots, regardless of relative seniority in category, and it would also do it with zero need for Good Will Bidding techniques as well.

Vacation should be 5-6 hours per day under the existing system of weeks per YOS. That would turn sucky vacation blocks into awesome vacation blocks for 100% of the pilot group in every category, line holders and reserves, without having to file a PBS appellate brief dissertation as well.

Touch drop helps some more than others, and helps the senior in category (who already get more vacation in the first place) far more than the junior in category. Increasing credit hours per day helps everyone and would be dramatically superior to our current ultra low credit noncation.

Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 962983)

I suggested this a while back and it didn't get rave reviews. I agree with you. If I can be held liable for something I do before or after a flight, then I want to be compensated for it. This could be something we push for on the "work rules" side as well as a $ increase per hour. You might see some folks jumping ship to domestic if it happens. The shuttle guys would really increase their net pay.

Originally Posted by whaledriver1 (Post 963155)

Its pathetic that Delta pilots do not get paid until the damn Beacon is flashing. I've been at the gate with the door closed, full of pax, ticket on the line if S$#@ hits the fan with NO PAY because the beacon is not flashing. Who in DALPA ever accepted this deal?

At least :45 min pre & :30 min post pay each flight. Clock starts with main door closed... think most of the old North fleet is still brakes released / door closed = $$$.

Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 963161)

Keep in mind the policy has always been that the brakes are not released until cleared to push. I know that is not always what happens, but that is and always has been the policy thus I am not sure why you are complaining about the Delta South procedure.

Originally Posted by maddogmax (Post 962965)

We should get one hour pre-flight pay plus 1/2 hour post-flight pay plus schedule or actual for every day of a rotation.