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Nosmo King 03-12-2011 12:00 PM

CNN iReport video of the Delta Sky Lounge in NRT during the quake.

For those of you that have been there its on top of the banjo, you walk by the outside curved wall on the way to customs.

http://cnn.com/video/?/video/ireport...quake.dong.cnn

vprMatrix 03-12-2011 12:07 PM

If you have never looked at this web site I highly recommended it.

Airline Pilot News and Analysis - Scope Comparison

In addition to compensation there are a lot of other area that need big improvements. Delta's vacation pay is almost the worst out there.

Interesting is that SWA, UPS, and FDX have the highest hourly rates, with the best rigs, the tightest scope and don't use PBS according to the info provided.

gloopy 03-12-2011 12:32 PM

Agreed on the vacation pay. It is pathetic. It needs to be almost double.

johnso29 03-12-2011 12:34 PM

Anyone know who we call if we forgot our company Web e-mail password?

FlighTimeBarbie 03-12-2011 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 962755)
I would rather they publish the TA and shut the hell up about it. Let it stand on it's own.


The problem with the process is once a TA is published - that section has already been agreed to...as a whole. My experience, in then making an argument regarding it's weaknesses/concessions, is that the MEC Administration and the Negotiating Committee will tell you it is bad policy to go back and seek changes to the TA - even small changes. They will tell you it diminishes their credibililty.

Also, since it is TA'd as a whole, when the pilot groups identifies the individual weaknesses/give-backs/concessions - things that will negatively affect quality of life - because they are already in the TA, they are impossible to change at that point.

I remember arguing against some concessions in the C2K Scheduling section at a roadshow and was put down by JM. These seem like little items when picked apart individually - but they all add up. For example, one of the concerns I argued was how the changes in the reserve scheduling would end up increasing short call days - which indeed they did.

Again, since each contract section is TA'd as a whole, it becomes too late to argue against individual concessions, that together significantly degrade QOL. The TA as a whole must be rejected - which has proven almost impossible to do.

Columbia 03-12-2011 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 962886)
Agreed on the vacation pay. It is pathetic. It needs to be almost double.

Does Delta have vacation touching? In other words. any trip which touches a vacation period is automatically dropped and paid turning two 4 day trips plus 7 days vacation into 21 days off. Some regionals have this, fwiw.

Flamer 03-12-2011 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Roadie85 (Post 962702)
Flew on SWA yesteday and was talking with the F/A about her trip and minimum daily pay. Her 3 day was worth 20:15, 16:05 block time. They have a 6:30 min pay/day. Pilots couldn't remember their rigs but said they were the same or very close. Trip rigs determine how many days at home we get. One of the areas of our contract that needs to be improved.

Pilots are 6 tfp if not used and 6.5 if used. With the right rigs and work rules I would vote for a 0% increase to Dal rates. You get more money and better qol at the same time and make it a lot harder for the me too crowd.

If you like dehead only days, 33 hour domestic layovers, productivity sits, and roations spread out so there is 1 minute of credit time you can disregard all the above.

maddogmax 03-12-2011 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 962908)
Does Delta have vacation touching? In other words. any trip which touches a vacation period is automatically dropped and paid turning two 4 day trips plus 7 days vacation into 21 days off. Some regionals have this, fwiw.

The long answer is "no"

Elvis90 03-12-2011 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 962888)
Anyone know who we call if we forgot our company Web e-mail password?

I called CPSC and they hooked me up with the appropriate IT folks for a password reset.

johnso29 03-12-2011 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 962914)
I called CPSC and they hooked me up with the appropriate IT folks for a password reset.

Thanks. :)


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