SierraWhiskey

I wasn't aware of that discount. Any info would be greatly appreciated?

Carl Spackler

That question had never been settled, because it had never been asked before from an airline in bankruptcy. Since it was unsettled law, the courts acted. A PEB and possible follow-on action by the Congress IS settled law. Even though the Congress has never done it before, they could. But that's beside the point of people here trying to frame a strike as an impossibility. It's just not true. The NMB is not a total blocking agent...witness the Spirit strike. PEB's do not stop a strike...it can only delay it a maximum of 60 days. Congress can intervene and impose a contract on a union...but they've never done so in history (that I know of anyway).

Carl

SierraWhiskey

I don't think so...From my research so far I've been told that is all I need! I haven't ruled it out yet...

scambo1

I was responding to your concern/fear about something that never happened before. I can understand why you love our current MEC, risk aversion is something you share.

Carl Spackler

That's hilarious!!

Carl

Superpilot92

3 of us NWA guys did it at the same time, $395 a piece, between the 3 of us we bought 9 guns. 3 each

At the time we just had to call glock and ask for a local distributor near our zip code. They gave us a few guys and after calling them and and asking if they did the airline pilot/Leo discount we were on our way. I had to give a copy of my ID to him and just placed my order.

That was 3-4 years ago so not sure what the deal is now but take it fwiw,

Good luck

finis72

Everybody on here has an opinion and 1 vote. I know I'm in a minority but I have always been a realist. I would love restoration but the reality to me is that under the RLA and going to the NMB, that isn't going to happen. Sailing came on here and said he wants 40% but then also stated that it will be a long struggle as the NMB has already hinted to DALPA that we won't get released for a long time (example 1, APA and AMR).
That's not managing expectations, that's reality. Reality is that DL has no incentive to sign a 1 billion plus cost increase for the pilots, period. If anybody can come on here and explain why our Mgmt team would do that I'm all ears. Our current Mgmt team is very aggressive about controlling costs and getting rid of routes that don't make money, sucks for us in the short run. SWAPA/SW is held up as our gold standard yet they are in bed together. Why do they get paid so much ?, maybe because SW makes money every year and they get a pay raise just about every year.
In my prior life I had an accounting degree and our (DL) data is still not pretty, improving but not good. I'm not managing expectations, its just reality.
I sound all doom and gloom but I still think we can get a good contract. It won't be easy and it won't be quick.

Carl Spackler

That's why I said this:

From your post below, it certainly sounded like you were trying make the process sound impossible.

Carl

scambo1

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Carl Spackler

Scambo can defend himself, but he's clearly not part of any echo chamber. He was responding to your constant self-insertions of roadblocks on our path to an industry leading contract. Specifically, "the "NMB will block us...and if they don't, "we'll get a PEB"...and if we don't, "the federal courts will block us from striking". That certainly sounds to me like someone who is quaking in fear...exactly like scambo described.

Carl