Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-01-2012 | 03:44 PM
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03-01-2012 | 03:51 PM
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At the time we just had to call glock and ask for a local distributor near our zip code. They gave us a few guys and after calling them and and asking if they did the airline pilot/Leo discount we were on our way. I had to give a copy of my ID to him and just placed my order.
That was 3-4 years ago so not sure what the deal is now but take it fwiw,
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03-01-2012 | 03:54 PM
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Some might argue after going through many of your past posts that you are one of the alpa or company expectation managers mentioned here (just like "thrust normal", "sailing" ect. Ninety percent of your time seems to be spent trying to show why we should not get much improvement or the alaska airlines jv is good or the outsourced RJ's are a necessity for our business model ect ect. The other 10 percent saying what a real line pilot trying to regain what was stolen would say to maintain some street cred. 
Que defiant "no I'm not!" response......3 2 1
Que defiant "no I'm not!" response......3 2 1
That's not managing expectations, that's reality. Reality is that DL has no incentive to sign a 1 billion plus cost increase for the pilots, period. If anybody can come on here and explain why our Mgmt team would do that I'm all ears. Our current Mgmt team is very aggressive about controlling costs and getting rid of routes that don't make money, sucks for us in the short run. SWAPA/SW is held up as our gold standard yet they are in bed together. Why do they get paid so much ?, maybe because SW makes money every year and they get a pay raise just about every year.
In my prior life I had an accounting degree and our (DL) data is still not pretty, improving but not good. I'm not managing expectations, its just reality.
I sound all doom and gloom but I still think we can get a good contract. It won't be easy and it won't be quick.
03-01-2012 | 03:55 PM
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Once we go to the traditional model, we can pretty much park ourselves for a while, and wait for the endless mediation sessions before we can even think of getting released, only to get to a PEB. This could take years. At which point your prophecy of quitting might be open, but illegal self-help certainly won't: we'll just get UsAired.
03-01-2012 | 03:56 PM
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03-01-2012 | 04:01 PM
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Awww shucks, I thought I was invited to the party. I guess you only want people of the same mindset posting in here? Sorry, didn't see that in TOS. Must be widebody syndrome. If you don't like someone's opinion tell to go pound sand huh? 777 and 747 hell of an echo chamber.........
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03-01-2012 | 04:10 PM
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Everybody on here has an opinion and 1 vote. I know I'm in a minority but I have always been a realist. I would love restoration but the reality to me is that under the RLA and going to the NMB, that isn't going to happen. Sailing came on here and said he wants 40% but then also stated that it will be a long struggle as the NMB has already hinted to DALPA that we won't get released for a long time (example 1, APA and AMR).
That's not managing expectations, that's reality. Reality is that DL has no incentive to sign a 1 billion plus cost increase for the pilots, period. If anybody can come on here and explain why our Mgmt team would do that I'm all ears. Our current Mgmt team is very aggressive about controlling costs and getting rid of routes that don't make money, sucks for us in the short run. SWAPA/SW is held up as our gold standard yet they are in bed together. Why do they get paid so much ?, maybe because SW makes money every year and they get a pay raise just about every year.
In my prior life I had an accounting degree and our (DL) data is still not pretty, improving but not good. I'm not managing expectations, its just reality.
I sound all doom and gloom but I still think we can get a good contract. It won't be easy and it won't be quick.
That's not managing expectations, that's reality. Reality is that DL has no incentive to sign a 1 billion plus cost increase for the pilots, period. If anybody can come on here and explain why our Mgmt team would do that I'm all ears. Our current Mgmt team is very aggressive about controlling costs and getting rid of routes that don't make money, sucks for us in the short run. SWAPA/SW is held up as our gold standard yet they are in bed together. Why do they get paid so much ?, maybe because SW makes money every year and they get a pay raise just about every year.
In my prior life I had an accounting degree and our (DL) data is still not pretty, improving but not good. I'm not managing expectations, its just reality.
I sound all doom and gloom but I still think we can get a good contract. It won't be easy and it won't be quick.
03-01-2012 | 04:12 PM
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I would submit that whether you fill them or not has everything to do with it....casm is a nice metric when you are past the break even point for a hull, when things go south 300 empty seats is more problematic than 100.
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03-01-2012 | 04:13 PM
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It's neither. It's a lie. It never happened. The NMB never said that to us.
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03-01-2012 | 04:17 PM
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